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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton View Post
    Yes. Pretty simple and succinct analysis captures it really. They are better than we are. And that was not a surprise.
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    I?m not sure the nature of Shapens injury but whether the coaches and fans want KT or not I am thinking they might not have a choice. I just hope this is a repeat of 2013 when Dak came in and won the Egg Bowl and then took us to a great 2014 season

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    2010 Auburn only have 2 guys on offense, besides Cam Newton, get drafted. There defense was not elite at all. A bend but don't break defense. They ended up being a pretty good team, winning the NC. The secret of course was Newton who was a freak athlete at the QB position. His O Line wasn't great. None of the WR played at the next level. Neither did a RB. I say this to say if you have a QB who is the best athlete on the field.. you play him. KT has PROVEN he can open up our offense and score. He is the best athlete on the field. Unpolished? Yes. But sometimes in college, you don't have to be the most polished QB to win. You just gotta extend plays.. and he does. You gotta score.. and he does. What can it hurt?

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    kick the FG in florida and we already have 6 wins

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses View Post
    2010 Auburn only have 2 guys on offense, besides Cam Newton, get drafted. There defense was not elite at all. A bend but don't break defense. They ended up being a pretty good team, winning the NC. The secret of course was Newton who was a freak athlete at the QB position. His O Line wasn't great. None of the WR played at the next level. Neither did a RB. I say this to say if you have a QB who is the best athlete on the field.. you play him. KT has PROVEN he can open up our offense and score. He is the best athlete on the field. Unpolished? Yes. But sometimes in college, you don't have to be the most polished QB to win. You just gotta extend plays.. and he does. You gotta score.. and he does. What can it hurt?
    Newton was also in his 4th year of college in 2010
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    He was.. which gives me that much more hope that KT is going to do great things for us. I also realize Cam was behind one if the greatest college QB ever in 07 and 08 so he didn't get much playing time but his stats where he did play aren't no where near as good as KT. His QBR in 5 games was 85. But KT has a QBR of 186(according to Fox Sports Stats)right now in 8 games played. 186! I know that his window of playing is small, but still... 186. And he scores touchdowns at a pretty dang good rate right now. Numbers don't lie. And our eyes don't either. And the competition hasn't been a walk in the park, nor has it been garbage time to pad stats except Alcorn State.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses View Post
    He was.. which gives me that much more hope that KT is going to do great things for us. I also realize Cam was behind one if the greatest college QB ever in 07 and 08 so he didn't get much playing time but his stats where he did play aren't no where near as good as KT. His QBR in 5 games was 85. But KT has a QBR of 96(according to Fox Sports Stats)right now. 96! I know that his window of playing is small, but still... 96. And he scores touchdowns at a pretty dang good rate right now. Numbers don't lie. And our eyes don't either.
    His numbers are inflated because he has come in to finish off Shapen drives that are inside the 5 yard line. Newton played mop-up time early on with the scrubs. I mean damn- Shapen led us down to the 3 yard line of the first drive and then KT got us in with one play from the 3.

    He is a great talent and going to be a very good QB for us next season after another Spring and some more maturity. But some of you seem to gloss over he played QB yesterday in a blowout game against alot of Georgia's subs and them relaxing on D up big.

    Both QB's need to play the rest of the season. With Mississippi having 2 weeks to get ready for our offense- they will have the KT package schemed pretty damn well
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    His numbers are inflated because he has come in to finish off Shapen drives that are inside the 5 yard line. Newton played mop-up time early on with the scrubs. I mean damn- Shapen led us down to the 3 yard line of the first drive and then KT got us in with one play from the 3.

    He is a great talent and going to be a very good QB for us next season after another Spring and some more maturity. But some of you seem to gloss over he played QB yesterday in a blowout game against alot of Georgia's subs and them relaxing on D up big.

    Both QB's need to play the rest of the season. With Mississippi having 2 weeks to get ready for our offense- they will have the KT package schemed pretty damn well
    You're right.. the touchdown numbers are inflated because of him coming into redzone situations. 3-3 in passing situations in the red zone with 1 TD. 8 rushing attempts with 5 TD in the redzone with 2 of these attempts coming from Taylor getting us in the redzone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    If your QB had 8 touchdowns to 10 turnovers in SEC play would you find an excuse for him or give someone else a shot? Not to mention the turnovers literally directly costed you 2 of your SEC losses
    coach lebby is plagued with the same disease that lose most coaches their job from high school to the pros in that they don't play the younger more talented player with much higher upside simply b/c he is "young". any decent coach whether HS or college knows how to adjust an offense to a "younger" player. look at the saints yesterday and in college, auburn looking completely different yesterday with the backup qb whose been on the bench all season. Mullen was notorious for playing the wrong qb and costing us multiple chances as big wins.

    thanks to shapen, you took us as far as you could. it's beyond time to put your best team on the field let by kamario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    His numbers are inflated because he has come in to finish off Shapen drives that are inside the 5 yard line. Newton played mop-up time early on with the scrubs. I mean damn- Shapen led us down to the 3 yard line of the first drive and then KT got us in with one play from the 3.

    He is a great talent and going to be a very good QB for us next season after another Spring and some more maturity. But some of you seem to gloss over he played QB yesterday in a blowout game against alot of Georgia's subs and them relaxing on D up big.

    Both QB's need to play the rest of the season. With Mississippi having 2 weeks to get ready for our offense- they will have the KT package schemed pretty damn well
    the flipside is you counter by giving your best qb 70+ snaps this weekend (in a likely win on the road) and two weeks to prepare exclusively vs OM at home and make the game 11 vs 11. it's really not that hard.

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    that same auburn QB also looked like a deer in headlights he week prior in the right Rev Freezers last stand

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    KT looks better each week with limited play because he is finally digesting things a little better and not being exposed during a complete game as QB1. Lebby has done the right thing bringing him along slowly. It is the absolute right call to have him ready next year, which has been the best case scenario since the day he signed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justwin View Post
    the flipside is you counter by giving your best qb 70+ snaps this weekend (in a likely win on the road) and two weeks to prepare exclusively vs OM at home and make the game 11 vs 11. it's really not that hard.
    There is nothing "likely" about our game this weekend. We are beat up on defense and on the road. 6.5 point underdog. One of the better DL's in the SEC vs our below average OL

    It's going to be a fight. You keep playing both QB's
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    His numbers are inflated because he has come in to finish off Shapen drives that are inside the 5 yard line. Newton played mop-up time early on with the scrubs. I mean damn- Shapen led us down to the 3 yard line of the first drive and then KT got us in with one play from the 3.

    He is a great talent and going to be a very good QB for us next season after another Spring and some more maturity. But some of you seem to gloss over he played QB yesterday in a blowout game against alot of Georgia's subs and them relaxing on D up big.

    Both QB's need to play the rest of the season. With Mississippi having 2 weeks to get ready for our offense- they will have the KT package schemed pretty damn well
    Golding is going to have the Kamario package scouted to a T.

    If we are going to roll with Kamario the rest of the year we are going to have to open the playbook up a lot more. And that is where the worry comes in. Freshman can get paralysis by analysis if you overload them and we can't cut down the gameplan just because he may not understand things. Our playbook the next two weeks can't be swing pass, deep pass, read option, QB keeper. They will be ready for that. We are going to have to use our usual RPO stuff with crossing routes and slants. The deep shots are going to have to still be there as well.

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    good analysis

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    Quote Originally Posted by justwin View Post
    the flipside is you counter by giving your best qb 70+ snaps this weekend (in a likely win on the road) and two weeks to prepare exclusively vs OM at home and make the game 11 vs 11. it's really not that hard.
    Have you watched Mizzou AT ALL this year? They do the one thing we struggle to defend REALLY WELL. Hardy and Roberts are two very good backs and Drink is a pretty damn good play caller. They will get Coleman involved with speed sweeps too.

    This is not a LIKELY win. Hell we're a 6.5 pt dog so Vegas does not think it's a likely win either.

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    We can't let big 87, the TE run free either. He's a TD machine inside the 20

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    There is nothing "likely" about our game this weekend. We are beat up on defense and on the road. 6.5 point underdog. One of the better DL's in the SEC vs our below average OL

    It's going to be a fight. You keep playing both QB's
    They also run the ball very well and GA shredded us on the ground for 300 plus yards. I think we are now #15 against the run in the SEC. Our 3 man DL scheme has driven me mad all year. We don't stop the run or get much pressure at all on the QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldendawg View Post
    They also run the ball very well and GA shredded us on the ground for 300 plus yards. I think we are now #15 against the run in the SEC. Our 3 man DL scheme has driven me mad all year. We don't stop the run or get much pressure at all on the QB.
    Georgia schemed us well with motion to move our D to create mismatches. I'm sure we will spend this week making corrections against some of that. The Rams schemed the 49'ers yesterday they had trouble defending. It happens

    We'll defend the run better but I'm worried us being beat up. Hopefully we got our main guys ready to go by Saturday
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldendawg View Post
    They also run the ball very well and GA shredded us on the ground for 300 plus yards. I think we are now #15 against the run in the SEC. Our 3 man DL scheme has driven me mad all year. We don't stop the run or get much pressure at all on the QB.
    With this group being aggressive would end up being a worse result. Trust me. We would be getting destroyed by dual threat QB's and teams would have all day to throw. When you can't get pressure you have one option and that is to spy the QB, play zone, and pick your times to blitz.

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