Poll Question: Should we fire Lebby if we finish 4-8 (0-8)?

[Quaoarsking]

There’s no way I would fire Lebby this season. Not because he’s a good coach but because the competition will be insane on the coaching carousel. Based on his decision making thus far I would imagine we will have a football coaching search start up in Nov’ of 26.

I think you're probably going to get your way, but I just can't wrap my head around being OK with having yet another bad season in 2026 (4th straight out of a bowl) just for the possibility of maybe the coaching carousel being easier then. Who's to say Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma, and Michigan won't be looking for new coaches a year from now?

[Todd4State]

He beat them, just like Arnett beat Western Michigan in 2023.

And we dominated them a lot more than Arnett did. Which shows improvement from last year to this year and from when Arnett was our coach.

[Dawgology]

Hell no. And that's the difference. The rational people that I have seen on here have acknowledged the issues and have set a boundary for what is acceptable and not acceptable at this point based on the situation. And almost everyone has said that if by next year he still can't win you pull the plug. I think that's very reasonable.

I haven't seen anyone that I would say is blindly loyal to Lebby.

So we shooting for 5-7, 1-8 in the SEC next year and we keep him? Lol

[Quaoarsking]

And we dominated them a lot more than Arnett did. Which shows improvement from last year to this year and from when Arnett was our coach.

OK. Lebby beat a non-bowling MAC team 38-10 instead of 41-28. That's ... something?

[Dawgology]

OK. Lebby beat a non-bowling MAC team 38-10 instead of 41-28. That's ... something?

They will continue to move the goal posts.

[Todd4State]

I think you're probably going to get your way, but I just can't wrap my head around being OK with having yet another bad season in 2026 (4th straight out of a bowl) just for the possibility of maybe the coaching carousel being easier then. Who's to say Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma, and Michigan won't be looking for new coaches a year from now?

No one is OK with it. I think if the team wasn't clearly improving then more people would be on the fire him wagon. That improvement happened because we added to our NIL and to our team. But we know we're not quite there yet but we're obviously pretty close. So, most of the rational people see that and think "gee, maybe if we add a few more players to what we are doing that should be enough to get us over the hump." This is very different than Moorhead where the team seemed to gradually get worse and we had some embarrassing issues like Tutor Gate and the Gay/Shrader fight.

That's more of than what is potentially on the coaching carousel which is already obviously going to be wild. But who we could potentially get absolutely is a factor. And odds are it won't be as wild next year. I think what we are seeing now is a byproduct of schools waiting to see what would happen with the house settlement otherwise a lot of these changes would have happened already.

I think it's also important to try to establish some stability because we haven't had that since Leach passed away. Because if we can do that then we will be in a much better position to get a better coach. It's not just about making a change. It's about giving MSU the best chance to succeed in the long run. Being knee jerk and replacing the coach because he had a bad game isn't always the answer.

[Todd4State]

So we shooting for 5-7, 1-8 in the SEC next year and we keep him? Lol

No. I think it depends on how next year plays out as well though. If he does go 5-7 and we keep losing games we have a chance to win in then I think we should make a change. I don't think he has to just win one game. Next year will be different because we have an easier schedule and we should have a better team. All of that factors in. It's not that black and white.

[Todd4State]

OK. Lebby beat a non-bowling MAC team 38-10 instead of 41-28. That's ... something?

Considering that we lost to a MAC team the year before and played a lot better in the game- yes, I would say it's something.

We also beat a 6-2 USM team easily this year on the road led by the coach some people want to replace Lebby with for some weird reason.

[CaptainObvious]

Whether y'all like it or not, if Lbby goes 4-8 after starting 4-0 non conference, and is retained, next year could end up being worse. The money support will be a lot less. He will not get an extension making it hard to recruit for a possible lame duck.1/2 the Fanbase will be gone to the house, not buying tickets or buying game day gear. It is going to be ugly in 2026 and he will have to win with less than he has working for him this year, both financially and talent wise!

Like it or not, 6-18(0-16) after 2 years with 2 of those 6 wins being against FCS schools is a bad look and will lose support

[CaptainObvious]

No. I think it depends on how next year plays out as well though. If he does go 5-7 and we keep losing games we have a chance to win in then I think we should make a change. I don't think he has to just win one game. Next year will be different because we have an easier schedule and we should have a better team. All of that factors in. It's not that black and white.

Except.... we don't have an easier schedule next year. 😳😳

[Quaoarsking]

Except.... we don't have an easier schedule next year. ����

There's just no way to say right now. 7 of our 9 SEC opponents next year are currently ranked, but Vanderbilt, Missouri, Ole Miss, etc., might take a step back next year. Or maybe they'll stay good and Auburn will get good too.

[Coach34]

Who's to say Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma, and Michigan won't be looking for new coaches a year from now?

Hahahahahahahahaha. The candidates they would be considering and the ones we have to consider aren’t in the same room. We would be fine if that were to be the case

[Quaoarsking]

Hahahahahahahahaha. The candidates they would be considering and the ones we have to consider aren’t in the same room. We would be fine if that were to be the case

I don't know who you're laughing at, because we are on the same side here...

[maroonmania]

Ehhhh.... personal foul, hurry up offense in running clock time, and punting to the best PR guy in the country lost the game, not depth

And that doesn't count the 4 points we gave away by committing a PF on a made FG that then became a TD. Geez, we do stupid stuff.

[Turfdawg67]

Hell no. And that's the difference. The rational people that I have seen on here have acknowledged the issues and have set a boundary for what is acceptable and not acceptable at this point based on the situation. And almost everyone has said that if by next year he still can't win you pull the plug. I think that's very reasonable.

I haven't seen anyone that I would say is blindly loyal to Lebby.

Exactly. No one is in the Cult of Lebby, we just have eyes. Just because the OP "saw the light" Saturday night, he can't understand why we don't all grab our pitchforks and torches like he has.

[1eyedog]

If DOG faithful want to go out and try to find a coach in a year when SEVERAL other BIG SCHOOLS will be looking to hire......then our fans are more ignorant than that school up north accuses us of being......and that’s SCREAMING IGNORANCE....please use your critical thinking abilities.....

[Quaoarsking]

If your answer is, "I think he's done well enough to earn a third year," fair enough.

But "I would normally fire him, but I'm a little too scared of the coaching carousel that I just can't go through with it" is a pathetic position to take. This may be the new normal in college football anyway. You never know if it will be any easier next year or not.