Our NIL donors did their part. Lebby let them down.

[Todd4State]

I've heard a bit through the grapevine that other coaches think Lebby is a bit of a simpleton and won't be surprised that he's losing games he should win.

And what coach out there thinks we should have beat Tennessee, A&M on the road, Florida on the road, and Texas?

[msstate7]

[QUOTE=HoopsDawg;1674017]

I asked you several legit questions and you just deflect to that and change the meaning. Typical

At some point, improvement has to turn a 0 into a 1. Catching a school like Florida where it was known that it was tbd coach's last game is a win for the taking. Yesterday, up 17 in the 4th. Man, if not then, when? I didn't hold tenn against him. I won't hold any after this week against him. Arkansas under an interim is a must win for Lebby. In the new CFB world getting players to come here after starting 0--16 is gonna cost twice as much as it did this year. Seriously, what players are gonna wanna sign up for that in a season where all other sec programs are brining in new coaches and shiny upsized NIL budgets.

[Quaoarsking]

That is actually you oversimplifying. We lost. Fire coach. Thats the simplest, most typical fan response possible. Requires zero thought or evaluation.

Saying that I haven't thought out my position and explained it thoroughly is really making you look silly, even to other Lebby supporters reading this thread. You can disagree with me if you want, but I'm very obviously not being "simple" or "zero thought" on this.

[Quaoarsking]

And what coach out there thinks we should have beat Tennessee, A&M on the road, Florida on the road, and Texas?

Almost everyone thinks we should have beaten a 2-4 Florida team that was already known to be firing their coach. A lot of people nationally expected us to beat an overrated, underachieving Texas team.

Most competent coaches would have won both games.

[Todd4State]

Almost everyone thinks we should have beaten a 2-4 Florida team that was already known to be firing their coach. A lot of people nationally expected us to beat an overrated, underachieving Texas team.

Most competent coaches would have won both games.

And we weren't favored to win either game.

[Quaoarsking]

And we weren't favored to win either game.

We would have been favored against both if we had a better coach.

Sadly, Leach's death (in addition to being a huge tragedy for his family) killed our football program and tore apart our fanbase in a way that we still haven't recovered from.

[HoopsDawg]

Saying that I haven't thought out my position and explained it thoroughly is really making you look silly, even to other Lebby supporters reading this thread. You can disagree with me if you want, but I'm very obviously not being "simple" or "zero thought" on this.

No I get it, fire Lebby bc Texas is worse than people thought. Makes total sense. You really have no concept of our NIL, budget, or the roster that Lebby inherited. Expecting those wins is laughable. You are mad at the nature of those losses which is fine bc you are just a random, typical fan. But wanting Lebby fired and others wanting Shapen benched is pure insanity at this point.

[Quaoarsking]

No I get it, fire Lebby bc Texas is worse than people thought. Makes total sense. You really have no concept of our NIL, budget, or the roster that Lebby inherited. Expecting those wins is laughable. You are mad at the nature of those losses which is fine bc you are just a random, typical fan. But wanting Lebby fired and others wanting Shapen benched is pure insanity at this point.

It's "laughable" to expect to beat a 2-4 team that's has already been leaked to be firing its coach. Yeah, I sure am an "insane" person for thinking we should win a game that meant everything to us and nothing to our opponent, especially when they had already lost to a team worse than us with a lower NIL budget.

It was totally "insane" that I, like almost everyone on this forum, predicted that we would win a home game over a team that has underachieved all season and is locked into playing an overrated QB that they way overspent on.

[Todd4State]

We would have been favored against both if we had a better coach.

Sadly, Leach's death (in addition to being a huge tragedy for his family) killed our football program and tore apart our fanbase in a way that we still haven't recovered from.

I don't gamble but I'm pretty sure that's not how Las Vegas works.

Leach was a good enough coach he could have kept us afloat while we got our NIL up to speed. But that's not what happened.

Also, part of the reason why we are in the situation we are in is because didn't do a national search right off the bat to replace Leach. Making stupid decisions like that killed our program too. And we had impatient fans wanting Arnett to be promoted while the voices of reason said not to. Some of those same voices of reason are also saying not to fire Lebby yet either.

[Quaoarsking]

I don't gamble but I'm pretty sure that's not how Las Vegas works.

Leach was a good enough coach he could have kept us afloat while we got our NIL up to speed. But that's not what happened.

Also, part of the reason why we are in the situation we are in is because didn't do a national search right off the bat to replace Leach. Making stupid decisions like that killed our program too. And we had impatient fans wanting Arnett to be promoted while the voices of reason said not to. Some of those same voices of reason are also saying not to fire Lebby yet either.

No, I think most of the pro-Lebby people are the same ones who spent 2020 through 2022 wanting to fire Leach. At least there is a strong inverse correlation (not perfect, but strong) on this board and on SPS between poster's feelings on Leach and their feelings on Lebby.

[Todd4State]

No, I think most of the pro-Lebby people are the same ones who spent 2020 through 2022 wanting to fire Leach. At least there is a strong inverse correlation (not perfect, but strong) on this board and on SPS between poster's feelings on Leach and their feelings on Lebby.

Well, that's certainly not me as I have been a Leach fan for a long time and have defended him ad nauseum. I have noticed that correlation at all. But maybe it's there.

To me, Lebby's offense has some similarities to Leach's offense in some ways even though it is also very different.

[mckeen]

And our best coach ever was an assistant. If you want to say it's Jackie that's fine too, he was a retread that no one else would touch w a ten foot pole, we took him and it clearly worked out.

I assume you are talking about Mullinz, correct? The guy who lost at least 3 EB's while texting to AD's trying to find a new job. Not even close to the best. Research my namesake, who won our only national title ( which our athletic dept. should start claiming).

[mckeen]

Mullinz is the wrong answer.

[Homedawg]

I assume you are talking about Mullinz, correct? The guy who lost at least 3 EB's while texting to AD's trying to find a new job. Not even close to the best. Research my namesake, who won our only national title ( which our athletic dept. should start claiming).

Ok fine. My father wasn't even born then. So I don't count back that far.