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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
I could actually handle losing games because of lack of talent. Losing games because of stupid coaching decisions and stupid acts by players on the field is tougher to stomach. Not sure money stops people from doing stupid things that get you beat.
THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ goes a long way !
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
That's the opposite of what we should be doing if we want to get better. Our fans overvalue coaches and undervalue players.
Give more money, get better players, and get better results. It is what it is. Sabotaging the coach now only hurts the next coach we get if it doesn't work out.
I don?t know. These $5mm players beat the $30mm players for over 45 minutes.
Shapen played really well.
What?s dumb is having a head coach who is learning on the job. He's clearly just an O coordinator. He?s deep in the 4th quarter looking at his play sheet all the while we are losing momentum by the second.
By still being the O coordinator, he CANNOT grasp the situation unfolding in front of him.
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Originally Posted by
Offshore Dawg
THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ goes a long way !
Can?t emphasize enough.
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Originally Posted by
SPMT
I don?t know. These $5mm players beat the $30mm players for over 45 minutes.
Shapen played really well.
What?s dumb is having a head coach who is learning on the job. He's clearly just an O coordinator. He?s deep in the 4th quarter looking at his play sheet all the while we are losing momentum by the second.
By still being the O coordinator, he CANNOT grasp the situation unfolding in front of him.
Lebby must have an OC next year, I think that this hits pretty close to some of the issues. He's too focused on calling the offense and not looking at the overall gameplan and strategy, he very may well be limited to being an OC, but he must get a dedicated OC next year.
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Originally Posted by
SPMT
I don?t know. These $5mm players beat the $30mm players for over 45 minutes.
Exactly. We don’t have the depth to finish 60 mins because we can’t afford it
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Exactly. We don?t have the depth to finish 60 mins because we can?t afford it
Yeah. Thats what I think it leads to.
Nonetheless, Lebby is currently a terrible in game head coach. Maybe he figures it out.
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Before just saying "open the wallet", you need to factor the tax that will be paid to get players despite a coach and staff that is not managing games to win.
AD and alumni have to factor the price of the coach v. the extra NIL tax to get players despite losing.
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Last edited by HRTFXR; 10-26-2025 at 01:03 PM.
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All Lebby has to do is kick the field goal and we are 5-2. All he has to do is run the clock and get out of the hurry up offense while we are up 10 with 4 minutes left and we are 6-2. The issue I have is that these are very very very basic coaching strategies that win games more times than they lose. It is, frankly, indefensible for a head coach in the SEC to be making these dumbass decisions that cost us games. It’s all on coaching decisions. All of it.
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Originally Posted by
Dawgology
All Lebby has to do is kick the field goal and we are 5-2. .
We've missed a FG in all 3 of our close losses. It's not quite that simple
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
We've missed a FG in all 3 of our close losses. It's not quite that simple
Ultimately Lebby is responsible for the results of the program, and he is pissing away winnable games that an average coach would not, much less a good one.
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An average coach wouldnt have scored 38 last night with a QB like Shapen who we've been told by most here sux
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
An average coach wouldnt have scored 38 last night with a QB like Shapen who we've been told by most here sux
It doesn't really matter if Lebby has some strengths if his weaknesses still make us lose. There are plenty of G5/FCS head coaches who would have 6 or 7 wins right now with our budget.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
Ultimately Lebby is responsible for the results of the program, and he is pissing away winnable games that an average coach would not, much less a good one.
An average coach wouldn?t have us competitive against this schedule. Wow, I hope you are just a troll and these aren?t real opinions.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
An average coach wouldn?t have us competitive against this schedule. Wow, I hope you are just a troll and these aren?t real opinions.
Completely delusional. Our schedule hasn't even been that hard by SEC standards. Florida is trash. Texas is way overrated. Lots of other teams are competitive against them.
Just taking Texas to overtime isn't going to save Mark Stoops' job (a guy who has taken Kentucky to 8 bowl games), and it shouldn't save Lebby's either.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Baseball had enough this Spring and injected $15MM into the program to demand change. They got it
Football needs 3X that. Write your checks. Football needs $50MM. More money for the roster and depth. More staff.
We are funding at the bottom of the SEC. You get what you pay for. Our QB is lowest paid in the SEC. We have no OL depth. it shows
I logged in to say that hell has frozen over. I agree with C34! WOW!
The truth is our roster is not up to par and Lebby has them in games.
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Originally Posted by
BlackSailsDawg
I logged in to say that hell has frozen over. I agree with C34! WOW!
The truth is our roster is not up to par and Lebby has them in games.
Our roster IS up to par though, at least so far in 2025. It's not like Lebby is doing some amazing coaching and getting us close when we have no business being close. Quite the opposite. Our players are getting leads and Lebby is pissing them away.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
We didn't lose 3/4 sec games bc of talent. We lost them bc of coaching. Quit making excuses
LOL! No we didn't. Look. How many times did a DLman come through untouched last night? Our OL is horrible. There is a noticeable drop off from Fluff to Booth, and there is nobody really behind Booth.
I was reading and saw this point, and it's accurate.
Lane Kiffin made what we all consider to be horrible calls on the road vs OU. He went for it on 4th down on his own 25 and did not make it. Then they drive the field to the 2 yard line and he pulls his starting QB and puts in a cold qb to throw 2 incomplete, yet open passes and settled for a FG.
The difference. They have the talent, whether we like it or not, to overcome mistakes by coaching and players. Just like Texas does.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Clark Lea has alot more funding than we do. Their starting QB makes more than our QB room combined
Yep. He turned down 4 million to leave Vandy.
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Originally Posted by
BlackSailsDawg
LOL! No we didn't. Look. How many times did a DLman come through untouched last night? Our OL is horrible. There is a noticeable drop off from Fluff to Booth, and there is nobody really behind Booth.
I was reading and saw this point, and it's accurate.
Lane Kiffin made what we all consider to be horrible calls on the road vs OU. He went for it on 4th down on his own 25 and did not make it. Then they drive the field to the 2 yard line and he pulls his starting QB and puts in a cold qb to throw 2 incomplete, yet open passes and settled for a FG.
The difference. They have the talent, whether we like it or not, to overcome mistakes by coaching and players. Just like Texas does.
Yep, it aint rocket science.
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