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Originally Posted by
BigDawg81
Just more info on this. Caleb was going to be behind the curb cause he got there late and he was never going to play over portal guys. He knew that going in and he is cool with it. He has also been banged up. He trust his coaches and is cool with redshirting.
I was not told he wasn't happy or was ticked off about R/S. I was told OM is going to recruit over him and he's going to get buried on the depth chart, exactly like Ayden did.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
I was not told he wasn't happy or was ticked off about R/S. I was told OM is going to recruit over him and he's going to get buried on the depth chart, exactly like Ayden did.
you started off with saying that you expect Caleb to enter portal. I?m not expecting that at all. If Caleb enters the portal, Kiffin would have told him too. I don?t think you are telling a 5* true freshman to hit the portal.
Last edited by BigDawg81; 10-16-2025 at 02:58 PM.
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Originally Posted by
BigDawg81
you started off with saying that you expect Caleb to enter portal. I?m not expecting that at all. If Caleb enters the portal, Kiffin would have told him too. I don?t think you are telling a 5* true freshman to hit the portal.
Why does Kiffin have to tell him to do that?
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Originally Posted by
BigDawg81
you started off with saying that you expect Caleb to enter portal. I?m not expecting that at all. If Caleb enters the portal, Kiffin would have told him too. I don?t think you are telling a 5* true freshman to hit the portal.
Things change in a hurry. If they cut his NIL for another player, he could be in the portal before you know it. Hell, so could KT
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Originally Posted by
BigDawg81
you started off with saying that you expect Caleb to enter portal. I?m not expecting that at all. If Caleb enters the portal, Kiffin would have told him too. I don?t think you are telling a 5* true freshman to hit the portal.
I do expect him to the enter the portal. It has nothing to do with being pissed at Kiffin or not liking Oxford or Ole Miss. It has to do with seeing the writing on the wall. They're going to recruit over him. Kiffin is not ever going to tell him to leave. He's not going to tell a 5 star to leave. But he will be honest with him, just like with Ayden, that he's been passed on the depth chart.
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i don't understand why the term "they are going to recruit over him" is constantly used as a negative toward Ole Miss. I would hope Lebby is recruiting over all of our players. In a competitive environment, you should always be recruiting over your existing players. That is the nature of the beast. Like I said before, if my bosses aren't trying to find somebody better than me every day, then they are idiots. Their job is to find a better employee than me. My job is to make sure no such person exists. That is how competition works.
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Originally Posted by
somebodyshotmypaw
i don't understand why the term "they are going to recruit over him" is constantly used as a negative toward Ole Miss. I would hope Lebby is recruiting over all of our players. In a competitive environment, you should always be recruiting over your existing players. That is the nature of the beast. Like I said before, if my bosses aren't trying to find somebody better than me every day, then they are idiots. Their job is to find a better employee than me. My job is to make sure no such person exists. That is how competition works.
The difference is if you go to Ole Miss the odds are you won't even be given a chance because they're going to recruit over to so why commit in the first place? Big difference between given an opportunity and getting passed up and getting passed up because they're want a new shiny toy out of the portal.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
The difference is if you go to Ole Miss the odds are you won't even be given a chance because they're going to recruit over to so why commit in the first place? Big difference between given an opportunity and getting passed up and getting passed up because they're want a new shiny toy out of the portal.
I assume all players get a chance to show out at practice. So that is a player's opportunity. Again, it is competitive environment. Life can be dog-eat-dog. I have no issue kicking any player to the curb if we can find someone better. I'm not a "participation ribbon" type of guy. I hope we recruit over every player on our roster. I absolutely love Fluff Boutwell for instance. But if the next version of Barry Sanders is available, Fluff will be watching from the sidelines with his helmet in his hand. And if he bitches I will say "Barry Sanders just did to you what you did to guys like Xavier Gayten".
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Originally Posted by
somebodyshotmypaw
I assume all players get a chance to show out at practice. So that is a player's opportunity. Again, it is competitive environment. Life can be dog-eat-dog. I have no issue kicking any player to the curb if we can find someone better. I'm not a "participation ribbon" type of guy. I hope we recruit over every player on our roster. I absolutely love Fluff Boutwell for instance. But if the next version of Barry Sanders is available, Fluff will be watching from the sidelines with his helmet in his hand. And if he bitches I will say "Barry Sanders just did to you what you did to guys like Xavier Gayten".
We had to build up the roster before we recruited over guys. But you can already see shades of it. Most teams would've just stuck with Booth but we chased Ahmad Hardy and Fluff Bothwell.
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Originally Posted by
somebodyshotmypaw
I assume all players get a chance to show out at practice. So that is a player's opportunity. Again, it is competitive environment. Life can be dog-eat-dog. I have no issue kicking any player to the curb if we can find someone better. I'm not a "participation ribbon" type of guy. I hope we recruit over every player on our roster. I absolutely love Fluff Boutwell for instance. But if the next version of Barry Sanders is available, Fluff will be watching from the sidelines with his helmet in his hand. And if he bitches I will say "Barry Sanders just did to you what you did to guys like Xavier Gayten".
It's a bit more complicated with boosters paying money now. They want to see ROI on their investment. For example they clearly had their better QB on the bench to start the year and it took injuries for him to get into the game. They love the portal and they do not take players without the intent of them starting. As a result it does not allow for much development for a high school player.
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Originally Posted by
somebodyshotmypaw
i don't understand why the term "they are going to recruit over him" is constantly used as a negative toward Ole Miss. I would hope Lebby is recruiting over all of our players. In a competitive environment, you should always be recruiting over your existing players. That is the nature of the beast. Like I said before, if my bosses aren't trying to find somebody better than me every day, then they are idiots. Their job is to find a better employee than me. My job is to make sure no such person exists. That is how competition works.
Agree and like it or not, a lot of these guys are making big $. Little or no ROI, process them and try to find a better player.
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