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    Our problem is really that we hired Leach

    I?m sorry. No offense to him but that was a huge error.

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    I loved Leach. Hated his offense at times, but some games like tonight I wish we would go full air raid dink and dunk.
    To your point, Texas Tech is just now recovering. And only because of NIL.

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    No. The problem is he passed away and we hired Arnett.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    No. The problem is he passed away and we hired Arnett.
    That set us back years!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    No. The problem is he passed away and we hired Arnett.
    Keenum. We have him to thank.

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    Not to get into a whole air raid argument , but last night I was thinking how Leach's wide offensive line splits slow down a more talented D line, and that we have a QB that would want to take more vertical shots downfield in the system.
    It is a talent equalizer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DownwardDawg View Post
    I loved Leach. Hated his offense at times, but some games like tonight I wish we would go full air raid dink and dunk.
    To your point, Texas Tech is just now recovering. And only because of NIL.
    One problem with air raid is TOP. You think our D was tired last night. Our D got better once air raid was out of our system.

    We needed to run the ball, run clock and give our D a breather. It worked until we kept forcing the long pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheewgumm View Post
    I?m sorry. No offense to him but that was a huge error.
    This is correct. The lack of recruiting combined with NIL kicking in full bore left us with a very very tall hill to climb. Our league is brutal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheewgumm View Post
    I?m sorry. No offense to him but that was a huge error.
    Pretty much everything Cohen did as our AD was a huge error. Jans may actually be the only exception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R2Dawg View Post
    One problem with air raid is TOP. You think our D was tired last night. Our D got better once air raid was out of our system.

    We needed to run the ball, run clock and give our D a breather. It worked until we kept forcing the long pass.
    We won SEC games with the Air Raid, or more about the Air Raid coach being the big reason. And we were not really running full Air Raid with Rogers's lack of arm strength.
    That coaching staff and Chief of staff for Leach were not that good on recruiting and that policy of don't offer until they have a D1 offer (or whatever they did), and lost some MS recruits.
    Air Raid can control TOP, and we usually did that. But the staff recruiting was really bad for sure.

    We do need an equalizer for our offense against these SEC stacked up NIL teams.
    Last edited by Santiago; 10-05-2025 at 07:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    No. The problem is he passed away and we hired Arnett.
    this.

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    Arnett was way over his head! Hired maybe the worse staff ever at Msu. Lied to players and couldn't recruit even as an assistant.

    You guys blaming Lebby for being bad have lost your mind. He inherited a terrible situation, not only that we are still in a building process. We are better but with injuries and lack of talent on offense along with not much talent depth is showing. Btw, yes Lebby makes mistakes, but this team is still playing hard.

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    Lebby has proven to me that he is a pretty good coach. The question is going to be whether or not he can recruit. I?m not even sure you can blame recruiting issues on him though because of NIL and even though ours is not terrible, it is no where near the top half of the SEC. Because he is a good coach and getting the most out of his players, it makes our talent deficiency more clear. Hopefully if our fans see that we can at least compete that they will go all in like Ole Miss, although I am skeptical

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santiago View Post
    Not to get into a whole air raid argument , but last night I was thinking how Leach's wide offensive line splits slow down a more talented D line, and that we have a QB that would want to take more vertical shots downfield in the system.
    It is a talent equalizer.
    You have a short memory. Remember us not being able to block 3 with 5? Remember us never taking shots and all we did was get running backs blown up (like last night).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowbell View Post
    You have a short memory. Remember us not being able to block 3 with 5? Remember us never taking shots and all we did was get running backs blown up (like last night).
    I remember during Leach's seasons, seeing guys open downfield and the QB not pulling the trigger or having the arm strength to hit tight windows.
    But I also do remember winning games, having winning seasons while half our fanbase complained at how we were winning was not exciting enough.
    Last edited by Santiago; 10-05-2025 at 10:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    No. The problem is he passed away and we hired Arnett.
    ^^^^^

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    We will be blaming the Mike Leach hire for the next decade. Never mind the fact that every team has to overhaul their roster due to the transfer portal, regardless of recruiting rankings. Anyone that would have been worth a shit while Leach was here would have been long gone by now.

    But yeah, it is because of the Leach hire.

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    My family and I sat in Raymond James Stadium on January 2, 2023, watching Mike Leach's #24 ranked team beat a BIG10 Illinois squad 19-10. 22 days after Mike died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton View Post
    My family and I sat in Raymond James Stadium on January 2, 2023, watching Mike Leach's #24 ranked team beat a BIG10 Illinois squad 19-10. 22 days after Mike died.
    yeah, but did thy RTDF? ***

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    There weren?t very many other options when we hired Leach but the mess we are digging out of is Keenums mess because he hired Arnett instead of doing a national search or consulting with others. We could?ve hired Lebby in 2023 or someone at least qualified

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