State vs Aggie Game thread

[msstate7]

Well never make the playoffs but we can win 6-7 sometimes. If things fall in order.

And that should realistically be the goal. We can't get there without a dual threat qb. Don't even waste a scholarship on a guy that can move the chains vs an sec team with his legs

[EdwardDrayton]

Huh?!?!

How do we as fans need to step up? Is he really being that simple saying just throw more money at it? Is it to pay more to players? To coaches? To administrators?

[Todd4State]

Shapen college rushing stats...
241 rushes 275 yards 1.1 per attempt

He's not immobile!!!

So if you take away the sack yardage he clearly has positive yardage. So yeah. He is mobile enough.

Also, again EVERYONE on this board said over and over and over again that they didn't want him running because he would get hurt. So, that's exactly what Lebby has done basically and now you're questioning why he isn't Superman and runs more while DL and LB's are all over his ass.

And let me remind people that you are the guy that wanted us to hire Dave Clawson as our coach.

[Todd4State]

How do we as fans need to step up? Is he really being that simple saying just throw more money at it? Is it to pay more to players? To coaches? To administrators?

It really is about money. We have everything else at every other position EXCEPT offensive line. So we're not that far off.

[EdwardDrayton]

And the problem with the RPO is the play execution depends on the QB and Shapen wants to sit back and play Brett Farve. It won't work with a crappy Line. He should've made Fluff the second coming of John Riggins.

It won't work with him. He doesn't process that quickly and does not have great pocket awareness.

[BravesDoggy]

So if you take away the sack yardage he clearly has positive yardage. So yeah. He is mobile enough.

Also, again EVERYONE on this board said over and over and over again that they didn't want him running because he would get hurt. So, that's exactly what Lebby has done basically and now you're questioning why he isn't Superman and runs more while DL and LB's are all over his ass.

And let me remind people that you are the guy that wanted us to hire Dave Clawson as our coach.

He really can’t help being an idiot can he? Clawson. lol

[Todd4State]

He really can’t help being an idiot can he? Clawson. lol

Apparently he really can't.

[Quaoarsking]

How do we as fans need to step up? Is he really being that simple saying just throw more money at it? Is it to pay more to players? To coaches? To administrators?

I'm not sure what your angle is here. Obviously the answer is "players."

[Bdawg]

Yeeeeahhhh. Except that's not how they're coached. Especially after the tackles ole' them and they have a full head of steam. And Shapen isn't immobile at all.

Shapen has a little speed when he gets going. But he’s not quick. He can’t take off and get away from someone out of the pocket. Doesn’t move around well in the pocket either.

[msstate7]

So if you take away the sack yardage he clearly has positive yardage. So yeah. He is mobile enough.

Also, again EVERYONE on this board said over and over and over again that they didn't want him running because he would get hurt. So, that's exactly what Lebby has done basically and now you're questioning why he isn't Superman and runs more while DL and LB's are all over his ass.

And let me remind people that you are the guy that wanted us to hire Dave Clawson as our coach.

Dave Clawson had a conf win today. Wake me up when Lebby gets one, period

[Quaoarsking]

Well never make the playoffs but we can win 6-7 sometimes. If things fall in order.

This is a pathetic attitude. With a better OL, we'd have a decent shot to get there this year.

[EdwardDrayton]

It really is about money. We have everything else at every other position EXCEPT offensive line. So we're not that far off.

If folks in college programs continue to pitch this narrative, it will kill college football. There are already lifelong diehards in my circle who donated lots of money to their programs over the years who have said no more. College football better wake up and institute cap spending or watch the sport as it is now disappear.

[Bdawg]

If it's a fracture he is probably out 6 weeks.

Yep. I’m sure it’s not good with our luck

[Todd4State]

Dave Clawson had a conf win today. Wake me up when Lebby gets one, period

Won't be long asshole.

[EdwardDrayton]

I'm not sure what your angle is here. Obviously the answer is "players."

Why would you assume there's an angle. Suspicious much?

[Todd4State]

If folks in college programs continue to pitch this narrative, it will kill college football. There are already lifelong diehards in my circle who donated lots of money to their programs over the years who have said no more. College football better wake up and institute cap spending or watch the sport as it is now disappear.

I mean, we don't control the environment that the game is in as fans. We have to adapt to it whether we like it or not. I do think we can survive in it and do OK but MSU fans have to be first convinced that MSU can.

[BeardoMSU]

It really is about money. We have everything else at every other position EXCEPT offensive line. So we're not that far off.

This.

[msstate7]

Won't be long asshole.

I should be well rested

[Quaoarsking]

Why would you assume there's an angle. Suspicious much?

Because it's so incredibly obvious that I was saying we needed a larger pool of money to get better players. Therefore, you were playing coy for some silly reason.

[EdwardDrayton]

I mean, we don't control the environment that the game is in as fans. We have to adapt to it whether we like it or not. I do think we can survive in it and do OK but MSU fans have to be first convinced that MSU can.

All we will do is inflate the spending across college football. We will still pull the same level players; we'll just pay more for them.