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					  Originally Posted by  msstate7  
 I expect him to make the opposite DEs think twice about selling out on pass rush. I think he has the legs to make them think contain instead of knock this immobile slow white boy's head off 
 
 
 Yeeeeahhhh.  Except that's not how they're coached.  Especially after the tackles ole' them and they have a full head of steam.  And Shapen isn't immobile at all.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					10-04-2025, 10:06 PM
				
			
			
				
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							Shapen isn't terrible, but we all know that Lebby spent all of December trying to replace him in the portal and failed.
						 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					10-04-2025, 10:07 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Todd4State  
 Even if we had the most mobile QB in the SEC we would still need to block someone.  
 
 That's the thing a lot of our fans don't get.  You can't just Superman your way through a SEC defense.  There are no corners to cut.  We HAVE TO be better going forward at all positions.
 
 
 
 Oh, I agree.
 
 Its a combination of a lot of things with Shapen, that we're stuck with, obv, bc hes clearly the most knowledgeable in the offense.
 
 I reeeeally wish he didn't crumble like wet balsa wood on every drop back when things break down....
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					10-04-2025, 10:08 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  HoopsDawg  
 You don?t have to feel sorry for him but you should be impressed with him. There was a massive talent gap on that field tonight and we completed for 3 quarters. You were too busy knocking Shapen to notice. 
 
 
 We did not compete on offense.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					10-04-2025, 10:08 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Quaoarsking  
 Shapen isn't terrible, but we all know that Lebby spent all of December trying to replace him in the portal and failed. 
 
 
 Fair and good point.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					10-04-2025, 10:08 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Quaoarsking  
 Shapen isn't terrible, but we all know that Lebby spent all of December trying to replace him in the portal and failed. 
 
 
 Sorry that few players can be persuaded to play here. Very few
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					10-04-2025, 10:09 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Brobi-wan  
 I think the frustrating part is that half the team played like they could?ve won the game. The other half might as well have been folding chairs. 
 
 
 True
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					10-04-2025, 10:09 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  EdwardDrayton  
 No air cast so there is a glimmer of hope we could get him back at some point. 
 
 
 Yeah. Hopefully not broke. Could be a bad high ankle sprain but those can linger too
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					10-04-2025, 10:09 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  BeardoMSU  
 Oh, I agree. 
 
 Its a combination of a lot of things with Shapen, that we're stuck with, obv, bc hes clearly the most knowledgeable in the offense.
 
 I reeeeally wish he didn't crumble like wet balsa wood on every drop back when things break down....
 
 
 
 He is better with a five second clean pocket.  But even five seconds is not always enough time for him.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					10-04-2025, 10:09 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  BeardoMSU  
 True. Its up to Lebby to scheme plays early to get this offense in a rhythm. Quick throws. Bootlegs. Motion. Shovel passes. Jets. Anything to get pressure off our QB knowing our OL is suspect....that didn't happen tonight. I wonder how much the TN performance might've blinded us for needing drastic adjustments, tho... 
 
 
 If anyone and I did, saw the TAM Aubbie game last week they would've saw the TAMs D was legit and would've designed his game plan accordingly. Just like you stated.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					10-04-2025, 10:10 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Bothrops  
 Sorry that few players can be persuaded to play here. Very few 
 
 
 We're going to have to $tep it up as a fanbase if we want to win enough to go to the playoffs.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					10-04-2025, 10:11 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  BeardoMSU  
 True. Its up to Lebby to scheme plays early to get this offense in a rhythm. Quick throws. Bootlegs. Motion. Shovel passes. Jets. Anything to get pressure off our QB knowing our OL is suspect....that didn't happen tonight. I wonder how much the TN performance might've blinded us for needing drastic adjustments, tho... 
 
 
 If there is ONE thing we did well tonight is we finally started to get the short passing game going.  THAT is going to help the offensive line as much as anything.  Look at the only TD we scored tonight.
 
 I think what happened tonight is more of a product of injuries and being on the road more than anything.  We also had two turnovers and they cashed in on one of them (maybe two?) and that made it look worse than it was.  I don't know that jets and shovels will help too much because jets take a long time to develop and that's the opposite of what we want the line to have to do.  Shovel it's just I could see it getting blown up because they can't block.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					10-04-2025, 10:11 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Quaoarsking  
 We're going to have to $tep it up as a fanbase if we want to win enough to go to the playoffs. 
 
 
 In what way?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					10-04-2025, 10:12 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Todd4State  
 Yeeeeahhhh.  Except that's not how they're coached.  Especially after the tackles ole' them and they have a full head of steam.  And Shapen isn't immobile at all. 
 
 
 Shapen college rushing stats...
 241 rushes  275 yards  1.1 per attempt
 
 He's not immobile!!!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					10-04-2025, 10:12 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Quaoarsking  
 Shapen isn't terrible, but we all know that Lebby spent all of December trying to replace him in the portal and failed. 
 
 
 He wasn't really trying to replace such a great qb
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					10-04-2025, 10:12 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Brobi-wan  
 I think the frustrating part is that half the team played like they could’ve won the game. The other half might as well have been folding chairs. 
 
 
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by  EdwardDrayton  
 He is better with a five second clean pocket.  But even five seconds is not always enough time for him. 
 
 
 Yep.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Bdawg  
 Yeah. Hopefully not broke. Could be a bad high ankle sprain but those can linger too 
 
 
 If it's a fracture he is probably out 6 weeks.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					10-04-2025, 10:16 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  EdwardDrayton  
 In what way? 
 
 
 Huh?!?!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					10-04-2025, 10:16 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Quaoarsking  
 We're going to have to $tep it up as a fanbase if we want to win enough to go to the playoffs. 
 
 
 Well never make the playoffs but we can win 6-7 sometimes. If things fall in order.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  EdwardDrayton  
 He is better with a five second clean pocket.  But even five seconds is not always enough time for him. 
 
 
 And the problem with the RPO is the play execution depends on the QB and Shapen wants to sit back and play Brett Farve.  It won't work with a crappy Line.  He should've made Fluff the second coming of John Riggins.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
			
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