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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
They're not. Again, there's one blue blood. LSU. They were great in later part of the 80s, they were incredible in the 90s, they were great in the 00s, they were great in 10s, and now they're back on one of those incredible streaks in 20s. Again, hit rate of 40% of winning it when they get to Omaha. That's unheard of. Texas is 16%. I think you're confusing my take. I'm not saying that Texas or Florida St or Miami or [insert program] isn't a great program or even elite. But those teams had runs with great coaches, just like Dedeaux at USC. And honestly, like I think we can be under O'Conner.
Texas was really good under Gustafson and really good under Garido. They won two national championships a piece. But they haven't won it since 05 and haven't made the championship series since 09. We've made it twice since then and we're not a blue blood.
Florida St was incredibly consistent under Mike Martin, but he didn't win the big one. Same reason Arkansas isn't a blue blood.
Miami was really good Ron Fraser and were really good Jim Morris. They probably underachieved a bit tbh. But they haven't really been there since. They tailed off at the end of Morris and Gino wasn't very good. This new guy may get them back.
Then there's LSU. It took Skip two years to get it rolling and it hasn't stopped since. Skip won it more times between 91 and 00 than most programs have won it. EVER. Texas, who you say is a blue blood has only won it 6 times total. Skip won it 5 in 10 years. Hell Smoke Laval was fired and went to a regional, a super, and two CWS trips in 5 years. Manieri won one and went to Omaha 4 more times. And now there's Jay who's won 2 in 4 years. There's everyone else and then there's LSU. They are the standard. I mean LSU has crap coaches get to Omaha and bad coaches that win it. When they get a good coach, it's over. In other words, the coaches don't really matter because they're going to get there. But if they have a good one it's over. You can't say that about other schools.
I'm going to disagree a lot. First - LSU doe not have more titles than anyone EVER. That belongs to USC and their 12.
Second, being a blue blood is about longevity and consistency, and market recognition, not just National Titles. If you have multiple Nattys, Multiple CWS appearances, and sustained runs of postseasons over decades, and you are who people think of when they think of the sport - you are a blue blood.
LSU, Texas, Miami, USC, Arizona and ASU are the blue bloods. They've done it the longest, have won the most, and are still consistently showing up in Omaha even if they haven't won in a while. CBB has far more parody in it than any college sport over the past 25 years with 17 different programs having won in that time. You can argue about which of those is the greatest program, but LSU is not in it alone.
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