Its almost August and I don't think I can remember

[Todd4State]

That's only because OM hired a winning coach and they're spending money like crazy to get the players they need. A few years ago, OM fans were us. Their stands were empty. They couldn't care less. We're pretty much at that point at MSU now.

This is very true. Which is why if Lebby doesn't work it out it's imperative to hire a known coach that will cause a splash. And no that isn't Dan Mullen.

[Todd4State]

We are bottom 3 of the SEC. Kentucky's drop- like ours- also coincides with the NIL Era

Also coincides with Stoops trying to leave Kentucky.

[maroonmania]

What are we spending on our 2025 roster and what are KY, USCe, OM, Mizzou, Vandy, Auburn and Ark spending on their 2025 rosters? Total amounts, including the 20.5 million in rev share.

I've heard we have 15 million invested in this year's roster. While Im sure thats still toward the bottom of the SEC it should be worth more than 2 wins. Im still hoping the new 20.5 million cap from the schools helps get things back in line somewhat. I know there will still be rulebreakers, but there have always been rulebreakers in the past but maybe this will reign in the wild west environment we have now.

[Dawgface]

Eternal optimists?? What?? We are the most negative fanbase in America. We complain 24/7

Yep. And I?m one the board of the Don?t Give a Crap club.

[chef dixon]

I mean what kind of system is this?

Ole Miss and others are good because they pay a bunch of people more than others. The fans/boosters are responsible for paying to the level of competitiveness (insane). Congrat-u-****ing-lations on winning some games! I sure hope you would get a return on investment. I've even heard some Ole Miss fans say their interest is hanging on purely because they are winning, but they don't enjoy it the same way they used to.

Not to mention more commericals, change in clock rules, less plays, less team cohesion - the product is worse than it was 5 years ago and that isn't changing any time soon for the better

[parabrave]

I mean what kind of system is this?

Ole Miss and others are good because they pay a bunch of people more than others. The fans/boosters are responsible for paying to the level of competitiveness (insane). Congrat-u-****ing-lations on winning some games! I sure hope you would get a return on investment. I've even heard some Ole Miss fans say their interest is hanging on purely because they are winning, but they don't enjoy it the same way they used to.

Not to mention more commericals, change in clock rules, less plays, less team cohesion - the product is worse than it was 5 years ago and that isn't changing any time soon for the better

it's dam near flag football,

[basedog]

As far as football this season, it's a wait and see before I or we know what the outcome will truly be. All I know last years results were very poor MAINLY because of previous staff. A complete rebuild ain't gonna happen in a year or two, regardless of NIL crap!

I think Lebby is working hard and doing the best he can, no doubt he needs to show much improvement and show the media and fans they or we are wrong.

I do think we will be improved but what do I know because I'm all Maroon! LOL

I can tell you, never quit or give up, I don't have that gene in my body or soul! Just saying!

[Tater]

Our baseball roster turns over the same way, yet everybody is stoked about baseball. I don't think it's portal and money as much as losing 12 straight sec games by double digits.
That's about to change though.

Yea it can change from 12 to be up to 20 this year ***

All jokes aside, Death -> Thinking '23 = '18 and trying the continuity play instead -> Wendeez deciding to do the opposite of what he was hired to do -> Lebby being the most mediocre hire we could do -> Lebby running back the same staff from a 2-10 year, just set us up for failure. It's a rut, but we can get out of it. It just likely won't be one year. Lebby could get us to 6-6 and KT winning the Egg bowl after Shapen gets hurt late in year would make for everyone to be hyped like 2013 going into 2014 again. But that's just not likely.

[R2Dawg]

This team wins 6 at least. Do not be shocked to see 7

There you are you eternal optimist.

Most years in my 45+ there was a large % of fanbase that always thought wait till next season and we gonna be good. Fall camp we all blew up with wool because of a bunch of said players that just were showing out. Nothing, notta, zero juice now.

We need something good to happen; who knows maybe we are all surprised 2 months from now.

[basedog]

There you are you eternal optimist.

Most years in my 45+ there was a large % of fanbase that always thought wait till next season and we gonna be good. Fall camp we all blew up with wool because of a bunch of said players that just were showing out. Nothing, notta, zero juice now.

We need something good to happen; who knows maybe we are all surprised 2 months from now.

Nothing wrong with having hope, i'm hoping as well!

[Coach34]

How much are we behind each of the teams 8-13?
Who is in the bottom 3 with us?
How much are we spending total on the 2025 roster?

(KY is 9-3, 7-5, 7-5, 4-8 in the NIL era. That's phenomenal for them historically.)

Well we were spending about half of what Mississippi was the last couple of seasons. We did up our game some for 2025.

As NIL has grown and become more ingrained- you are seeing it getting harder and harder for the State and Kentucky's of college football. Kentucky is predicted 15th in the SEC this season- State 16th. Granted we had some turmoil that also contributed- but it would still be a huge problem even without it. We raised spending, have a coach that is settled now, and still few expect us to win 4 games or more. Vegas has us at 3.5. We'll be a home underdog vs Arizona St

We shall get it going in about 5 weeks and see what happens

[basedog]

Well we were spending about half of what Mississippi was the last couple of seasons. We did up our game some for 2025.

As NIL has grown and become more ingrained- you are seeing it getting harder and harder for the State and Kentucky's of college football. Kentucky is predicted 15th in the SEC this season- State 16th. Granted we had some turmoil that also contributed- but it would still be a huge problem even without it. We raised spending, have a coach that is settled now, and still few expect us to win 4 games or more. Vegas has us at 3.5. We'll be a home underdog vs Arizona St

We shall get it going in about 5 weeks and see what happens

Yes

[AROB44]

This is very true. Which is why if Lebby doesn't work it out it's imperative to hire a known coach that will cause a splash. And no that isn't Dan Mullen.

You sure have it in for one of the best coaches in our history (if not the best). And, like you, I'm a huge JWS fan, but Dan is as good or better.

[STATEBALLIN]

Our baseball roster turns over the same way, yet everybody is stoked about baseball. I don't think it's portal and money as much as losing 12 straight sec games by double digits.
That's about to change though.

?About to change though? because you think we?re better this year? Or because we?re going to be just as bad and a change will be made?

[confucius say]

Well we were spending about half of what Mississippi was the last couple of seasons. We did up our game some for 2025.

As NIL has grown and become more ingrained- you are seeing it getting harder and harder for the State and Kentucky's of college football. Kentucky is predicted 15th in the SEC this season- State 16th. Granted we had some turmoil that also contributed- but it would still be a huge problem even without it. We raised spending, have a coach that is settled now, and still few expect us to win 4 games or more. Vegas has us at 3.5. We'll be a home underdog vs Arizona St

We shall get it going in about 5 weeks and see what happens

First paragraph is true. And on our 2023 roster we actually spent way less than half of what they spent on their 2023 roster.

But those Numbers have nothing to do with 2025 numbers. I'm not even sure they are spending more on their 2025 roster than we are. But if they are, it's not by a lot.
It's much more of a fair fight now. Gap is fixing to close if we have/get the head coach piece right.

[confucius say]

?About to change though? because you think we?re better this year? Or because we?re going to be just as bad and a change will be made?

We're going to be better. That may only be 4-8. But we're not getting beat by 24 at home to a G5 this year. And we're not losing our next 12 sec games by double digits.

[STATEBALLIN]

We're going to be better. That may only be 4-8. But we're not getting beat by 24 at home to a G5 this year. And we're not losing our next 12 sec games by double digits.

What I was thinking. Thanks

[Coach34]

First paragraph is true. And on our 2023 roster we actually spent way less than half of what they spent on their 2023 roster.

But those Numbers have nothing to do with 2025 numbers. I'm not even sure they are spending more on their 2025 roster than we are. But if they are, it's not by a lot.
It's much more of a fair fight now. Gap is fixing to close if we have/get the head coach piece right.

I dont think the gap is going to close. These programs will keep spending whatever they need to over the rev share. They dont want parity. They want championships.

[parabrave]

I dont think the gap is going to close. These programs will keep spending whatever they need to over the rev share. They dont want parity. They want championships.

And TAM just signed this 4star lineman from Pascagoula.

[Coach34]

Our HS recruiting this cycle is bad. And we dont have the money to portal our way to big things. Football is done

I suggest you enjoy the 2 other sports we can compete in