Its almost August and I don't think I can remember

[Coach34]

Our baseball roster turns over the same way, yet everybody is stoked about baseball. I don't think it's portal and money as much as losing 12 straight sec games by double digits.
That's about to change though.

For me it’s because it’s on a smaller level. Same with basketball. But when your roster changes by 40 or so players every season- there’s just no way to keep an interest in it.

[mckeen]

a lower time in MSU football history and I go back 45+ years. Maybe Felker one year or Croom a few years. Idk. MSU fans are eternal optimists but just no juice about anything.

I know portal and NIL, etc are also part to blame but we need something good to happen soon.

Apathy is sleeping at our doorstep.

Unfortunately, it has been worse. I lived through 1966-1969: 5 wins over 4 seasons.

[parabrave]

For me it’s because it’s on a smaller level. Same with basketball. But when your roster changes by 40 or so players every season- there’s just no way to keep an interest in it.

Also you have data on Baseball players most of who have playing time instead of a kid who sat the bench for 2 years waiting on a better player to leave.

[confucius say]

For me it’s because it’s on a smaller level. Same with basketball. But when your roster changes by 40 or so players every season- there’s just no way to keep an interest in it.

But you really only know half of the football roster anyway. About 50-55 guys. It's not hard to learn. If we were 9-3 every year the excitement would be high. We just made bad hires, and that cost us.
Excitement will pick up over the next 2-3 years

[Coach34]

But you really only know half of the football roster anyway. About 50-55 guys. It's not hard to learn. If we were 9-3 every year the excitement would be high. We just made bad hires, and that cost us.
Excitement will pick up over the next 2-3 years

But then that goes into the 2nd part of it. Because now that its almost totally money-based, I dont see a way for us to be competitive with top teams. We'll have a roster that good enough to stay ahead of non-P4 schools but even less of a chance to compete with the big boys. You have billionaire boosters at other schools now stepping in at places like Texas Tech. Unless we get something like that happening for us- it just wont matter.

We got that money flowing in now for baseball finally and basketball is at a very competitive place on the money front- football is not because of the amount it takes

[RezDog7]

My daughter has a very good chance of cheering D1 in a few years. She loves MSU but has been hesitant about cheering there because she knows how bad we suck. Even starting to consider the other school.

[CaptainObvious]

I know with some of y'all 4 wins with being more competitive in the losses will give you hope for the future. I just cannot get there. I realize too that some think our schedule will flip in 2026, possible giving us more chances for wind. Naw! They will just replace Texas, Georgia and Florida from this year with Alabama, LSU, and Auburn again and we are right back in the fire.

If Auburn, Tennessee, LSU, Alabama, A&M, Texas, Oklahoma, Florida, Georgia and really most if not all SEC teams went 2-10 and 4-8 in back to back seasons by a new coach, they would have a new coach the next year. Only Vandy and State and maybe Kentucky and Arkansas would tolerate that futility. And THAT is the neighborhood Mississippi State lives in. The equivalent of 39212 and 39204 in South Jackson vs. the first group who live in 39110.
We need to move out of South Jackson and at least find Pearl, South Brandon or Florence!

[DownwardDawg]

For me it’s because it’s on a smaller level. Same with basketball. But when your roster changes by 40 or so players every season- there’s just no way to keep an interest in it.

Plus we have a chance to win a National Championship in baseball. There's not even a chance at a winning season in football. That's another big difference in why we get excited about baseball even with the same turnover ratio.

[Ranchdawg]

My daughter has a very good chance of cheering D1 in a few years. She loves MSU but has been hesitant about cheering there because she knows how bad we suck. Even starting to consider the other school.

Please encourage her! The coach of the cheer squads is top notch and is very respected. My granddaughter has very much enjoyed her years of cheering at State even with the football stinking. Granddaughter got to go to several away games and experience other SEC campuses/stadiums. Granddaughter got to go to Los Angeles for the women’s basketball tournament. And granddaughter and her cheer team won a National Championship! Going to the other school imo would be a huge mistake. Not the same people there.

[Ranchdawg]

But then that goes into the 2nd part of it. Because now that its almost totally money-based, I dont see a way for us to be competitive with top teams. We'll have a roster that good enough to stay ahead of non-P4 schools but even less of a chance to compete with the big boys. You have billionaire boosters at other schools now stepping in at places like Texas Tech. Unless we get something like that happening for us- it just wont matter.

We got that money flowing in now for baseball finally and basketball is at a very competitive place on the money front- football is not because of the amount it takes

That is what makes my withdraw from support of the football. The hopelessness of the future is what is truly sad. The amount of monies that the others of this conference have is unattainable. If we put all of our NIL funds on just football we would still be in the bottom of this conference.

[Pancho]

[QUOTE=RezDog7;1661291]My daughter has a very good chance of cheering D1 in a few years. She loves MSU but has been hesitant about cheering there because she knows how bad we suck. Even starting to consider the other school.[/ maybe she can hold her nose and cheer

[Political Hack]

Our baseball roster turns over the same way, yet everybody is stoked about baseball. I don't think it's portal and money as much as losing 12 straight sec games by double digits.
That's about to change though.

It's all of the above, but winning cures all.

[confucius say]

But then that goes into the 2nd part of it. Because now that its almost totally money-based, I dont see a way for us to be competitive with top teams. We'll have a roster that good enough to stay ahead of non-P4 schools but even less of a chance to compete with the big boys. You have billionaire boosters at other schools now stepping in at places like Texas Tech. Unless we get something like that happening for us- it just wont matter.

We got that money flowing in now for baseball finally and basketball is at a very competitive place on the money front- football is not because of the amount it takes

What are we spending on our 2025 roster and what are KY, USCe, OM, Mizzou, Vandy, Auburn and Ark spending on their 2025 rosters? Total amounts, including the 20.5 million in rev share.

[Coach34]

What are we spending on our 2025 roster and what are KY, USCe, OM, Mizzou, Vandy, Auburn and Ark spending on their 2025 rosters? Total amounts, including the 20.5 million in rev share.

We are bottom 3 of the SEC. Kentucky's drop- like ours- also coincides with the NIL Era

[BravesDoggy]

This team wins 6 at least. Do not be shocked to see 7

[CaptainObvious]

I wonder how big of a drop we have this fall in enrollment due to our ineptitude on the football landscape in all phases?

[1eyedog]

In all my many years.....the “DOGS" at least always had some defensive players that would knock your **** in the dirt..... at the very least. Now I just don?t see anyone on either side of the ball that will. Truly hoping coach L is a miracle worker......I want to look forward to seeing something besides LSU night games on saturday night..........

[confucius say]

We are bottom 3 of the SEC. Kentucky's drop- like ours- also coincides with the NIL Era

How much are we behind each of the teams 8-13?
Who is in the bottom 3 with us?
How much are we spending total on the 2025 roster?

(KY is 9-3, 7-5, 7-5, 4-8 in the NIL era. That's phenomenal for them historically.)

[maroonmania]

Plus we have a chance to win a National Championship in baseball. There's not even a chance at a winning season in football. That's another big difference in why we get excited about baseball even with the same turnover ratio.

Exactly, we have an elite coaching staff bringing in top end talent in baseball. Both sports bringing in transfers is about the only similarity in the two sports right now.

[ArrowDawg]

Maybe it's all relative but when you compare our fanbase with the OM fanbase we are very pessimistic and self-loathing. Right now though, until we see something worthwhile on the field we have good reason.

That's only because OM hired a winning coach and they're spending money like crazy to get the players they need. A few years ago, OM fans were us. Their stands were empty. They couldn't care less. We're pretty much at that point at MSU now.