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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    The DBacks arent just going to quit. They drafted him with a plan. Their Top 10 rounds was almost all pitching with their last 3 picks college Sr's- so they wont have to pay them shit. Need August 1st to get here
    You?re such an odd guy lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big4Dawg View Post
    You?re such an odd guy lol
    Why? For pointing out the truth? Do you really think they drafted him only to take no for an answer on the first call? If I'm the DBacks GM- I'm working it and trying to make a deal. Top 5 round talent in the 19th round. Would be great to pull it off. If you think they just said **** it and moved on you're a moron
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    Todd: this is an excellent write up. Really good stuff.

    But, one thing I disagree with is this comment:
    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    especially on a team short with SEC experience.
    From last year's team, we return All 5 of the top hitters in Batting Average: Ace, Sully, Frei, Chance & Sanders
    We return 4 of the 5 HR leaders: Ace, Sully, Stallman, Frei (lost Hunter)
    We return 4 of the 6 RBIs leaders: Ace, Sully, Chance, Stallman (Lost Hunter & Powell)
    We return 4 of the 6 SLG% leaders w/100+ abs: Ace, Sully, Stallman, Frei, Chance (lost Hunter & Powell)
    We return 5 of the 6 OBP% leaders w/100+ abs: Sully, Ace, Frei, Sanders, Chance (lost Stevens)

    That's a large chuck on the 2025 offensive production with tons of SEC experience returning. Next year is gonna be damned fun!

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    I dont see any way Trout starts in the OF next Spring.

    You cant play him ahead of Frei- clearly the better hitter with more power.
    So now you got him going against Nunnalee, Val/Stallman/Parker for 1 spot. I dont like his "Chance"

    Lemon was overly partial to his recruits to his detriment- BOC wont have that for Trout and he may even have that for his guy in Nunnalee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    I dont see any way Trout starts in the OF next Spring.

    You cant play him ahead of Frei- clearly the better hitter with more power.
    So now you got him going against Nunnalee, Val/Stallman/Parker for 1 spot. I dont like his "Chance"

    Lemon was overly partial to his recruits to his detriment- BOC wont have that for Trout and he may even have that for his guy in Nunnalee.
    While I don't disagree that he has his work cut out for him. He had better numbers in sec than nunlee had in the acc. It's going to be a hell of a fall camp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MStateDawg View Post
    Todd: this is an excellent write up. Really good stuff.

    But, one thing I disagree with is this comment:


    From last year's team, we return All 5 of the top hitters in Batting Average: Ace, Sully, Frei, Chance & Sanders
    We return 4 of the 5 HR leaders: Ace, Sully, Stallman, Frei (lost Hunter)
    We return 4 of the 6 RBIs leaders: Ace, Sully, Chance, Stallman (Lost Hunter & Powell)
    We return 4 of the 6 SLG% leaders w/100+ abs: Ace, Sully, Stallman, Frei, Chance (lost Hunter & Powell)
    We return 5 of the 6 OBP% leaders w/100+ abs: Sully, Ace, Frei, Sanders, Chance (lost Stevens)

    That's a large chuck on the 2025 offensive production with tons of SEC experience returning. Next year is gonna be damned fun!
    Good research. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    The DBacks arent just going to quit. They drafted him with a plan. Their Top 10 rounds was almost all pitching with their last 3 picks college Sr's- so they wont have to pay them shit. Need August 1st to get here
    I agree. If I?m the Diamondbacks I would keep working on Parker. I would tell him that MSU?s outfield is too crowded and he might not get enough playing time. I would tell him that he and his brother might be in the same league and could play against each other. I wouldn?t draft him then rollover 24 hours later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    While I don't disagree that he has his work cut out for him. He had better numbers in sec than nunlee had in the acc. It's going to be a hell of a fall camp.
    Agree but in a dead heat this staff will go with Nunnalee. He has no connection with this staff. So he has to actually outplay people. Who would you sit to play him? Frei/Nunn/Val/Stallman/Parker?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    While I don't disagree that he has his work cut out for him. He had better numbers in sec than nunlee had in the acc. It's going to be a hell of a fall camp.
    I see good competition like you and others will bring the best out of each one. I wouldn’t count out Chance, he has gotten better every year and from what I have heard is a great team player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Why? For pointing out the truth? Do you really think they drafted him only to take no for an answer on the first call? If I'm the DBacks GM- I'm working it and trying to make a deal. Top 5 round talent in the 19th round. Would be great to pull it off. If you think they just said **** it and moved on you're a moron
    Hey man it's the truth that everyone on our roster could die of a brain aneurysm suddenly.

    While it's technically the truth - it's weird to continually be negative and come across as wanting more to be right than for good things to happen to State. You're just a weirdo in that regard.

    You convey the "I'm smarter than everyone" too much when you point out contrarian things. It's not a simple "got till august 1st to keep it that way" then move on. You've dug your heels in and basically want an argument over it. It's super weird.
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    Last year?s OPS for guys who currently will be on our roster (obviously some at varying Lu lower level of competition):

    Wyers - 1.231
    Reese - 1.140
    Sullivan - 1.120
    Milewski - 1.027
    Stallman - .991
    Frei - .990
    Bevis - .984
    Teel - .980
    Valincius - .953
    Chance - .865
    Raymond - .824 (as a true fresh)
    Nunnallee - .808 (as a true fresh)

    Also Woodson posted 1.124 and James posted .933 in limited PAs as a true freshman.

    I would be shocked if any team in America boasts that kind of production last year.

    Add to that guys like Parker and Mershon who could easily figure in, and I think we are set up to have the best offense in the country and the best in our history.
    Last edited by smootness; 07-16-2025 at 05:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tater View Post
    Hey man it's the truth that everyone on our roster could die of a brain aneurysm suddenly.

    While it's technically the truth - it's weird to continually be negative and come across as wanting more to be right than for good things to happen to State. You're just a weirdo in that regard.

    You convey the "I'm smarter than everyone" too much when you point out contrarian things. It's not a simple "got till august 1st to keep it that way" then move on. You've dug your heels in and basically want an argument over it. It's super weird.
    Yeah kid is wrong. Has been more wrong than right lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    Last year?s OPS for guys who currently will be on our roster (obviously some at varying Lu lower level of competition):

    Wyers - 1.231
    Reese - 1.140
    Sullivan - 1.120
    Milewski - 1.027
    Stallman - .991
    Frei - .990
    Bevis - .984
    Teel - .980
    Valincius - .953
    Chance - .865
    Raymond - .824 (as a true fresh)
    Nunnallee - .808 (as a true fresh)

    Also Woodson posted 1.124 and James posted .933 in limited PAs as a true freshman.

    I would be shocked if any team in America boasts that kind of production last year.

    Add to that guys like Parker and Mershon who could easily figure in, and I think we are set up to have the best offense in the country and the best in our history.
    A team OPS of 1.000 while being in the SEC sounded nuts to write, but it really is an achievable goal if things break right for us. Exciting times.
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    Sleeper impact guy for next year, for me at least, is Parker Rhodes. Nobody is talking about him, but he had serious draft buzz and blew up at the MLB Combine. He has great stuff and is more college ready than Bauer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedFedder View Post
    Sleeper impact guy for next year, for me at least, is Parker Rhodes. Nobody is talking about him, but he had serious draft buzz and blew up at the MLB Combine. He has great stuff and is more college ready than Bauer.
    If Rhodes' reported fastball velo and spin rate are accurate, he is starting in a good spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedFedder View Post
    Sleeper impact guy for next year, for me at least, is Parker Rhodes. Nobody is talking about him, but he had serious draft buzz and blew up at the MLB Combine. He has great stuff and is more college ready than Bauer.
    Bauer is a guy I don't expect much from until end of Y2 and then big time Y3.

    He strikes me as would have been better off being 4 years in single A ball, but hopefully it works out for him better than this armchair advisor suggests.

    I'd love for him to have closer material and have his walkout music just be the 24 TV show clock ticking.

    https://youtu.be/6nvKN_H4e-I?si=YMd9dpL7Qq91NXPp
    Last edited by Tater; 07-16-2025 at 09:17 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tater View Post
    Bauer is a guy I don't expect much from until end of Y2 and then big time Y3.

    He strikes me as would have been better off being 4 years in single A ball, but hopefully it works out for him better than this armchair advisor suggests.

    I'd love for him to have closer material and have his walkout music just be the 24 TV show clock ticking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tater View Post
    Hey man it's the truth that everyone on our roster could die of a brain aneurysm suddenly.

    While it's technically the truth - it's weird to continually be negative and come across as wanting more to be right than for good things to happen to State. You're just a weirdo in that regard.

    You convey the "I'm smarter than everyone" too much when you point out contrarian things. It's not a simple "got till august 1st to keep it that way" then move on. You've dug your heels in and basically want an argument over it. It's super weird.
    aGAINNNNNN- I think he stays with us. But as I pointed out- the DBacks will come at him again. You guys act like guys dont show up at colleges in the summer but then end up signing MLB by the deadline. I'm not being negative or trying to be right about anything. Just pointing out facts. I remember LSU signing that 4-star QB and he was on campus working out with the football team- got drafted and signed MLB
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    agreed on Bauer. I dont look for much out of him as a Freshman. His Soph year is when we should see the jump
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    aGAINNNNNN- I think he stays with us. But as I pointed out- the DBacks will come at him again. You guys act like guys dont show up at colleges in the summer but then end up signing MLB by the deadline. I'm not being negative or trying to be right about anything. Just pointing out facts. I remember LSU signing that 4-star QB and he was on campus working out with the football team- got drafted and signed MLB
    One thing is Parker said he turned down 2nd round money. How much could a 19th round pick get over slot to even get close to a number he already turned down? Also, I imagine he will get some NIL that they would also have to overpay.

    I know they didn't draft him without a hope and prayer but it seems more likely he comes to State than sign. Now if he was in the 10th round then I could see them making a more serious run at him.

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