Joe Castiglione to retire; Selmon favored to replace him as OU AD

[Tater]

Not guaranteed. But he's early clubhouse favorite after the Oak hire. His Lebby hire has some money guys questioning it though. Not a done deal yet.

[Tater]

Kirby Hocutt and Marcus Bowman also in the mix.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Not guaranteed. But he's early clubhouse favorite after the Oak hire. His Lebby hire has some money guys questioning it though. Not a done deal yet.

He's not the favorite. There's 4 or 5 names above his accd to some OU people. He's on the list, but he's not at the top of it. They'd have to strike out on some candidates before. And unlike when he interviewed for our job, they already know him. There's nothing he's going to do to blow them away like he did our people.

[Goldendawg]

We are an OTJ training program for FB HC (Hire Assistants who most are complete failures) and AD's. The successful Asst type AD's that we hire are poached very quickly. The duds stay forever, LT, or stay long enough to do serious damage to our programs, Cohen. The only sitting former AD that I remember hiring in my approx 62 year fandom is Carl Maddox. Only Asst FB coaches who became successful were Bob Tyler and Mullen. We get what we pay for, a history of continued failure while doing the same cheap thing over and over expecting a different result.

[confucius say]

Not guaranteed. But he's early clubhouse favorite after the Oak hire. His Lebby hire has some money guys questioning it though. Not a done deal yet.

Is there a source that says he is the favorite? Or is that your opinion?

[BravesDoggy]

O'Connor for MSU AD!!!!

[StarkVegasSteve]

O'Connor for MSU AD!!!!

I'm gonna go on record and say we won't ever hire a former coach to be an AD again. And I say that with a pretty strong guarantee it'll never happen again.

[Todd4State]

I'm gonna go on record and say we won't ever hire a former coach to be an AD again. And I say that with a pretty strong guarantee it'll never happen again.

GOOD!!

[Todd4State]

We are an OTJ training program for FB HC (Hire Assistants who most are complete failures) and AD's. The successful Asst type AD's that we hire are poached very quickly. The duds stay forever, LT, or stay long enough to do serious damage to our programs, Cohen. The only sitting former AD that I remember hiring in my approx 62 year fandom is Carl Maddox. Only Asst FB coaches who became successful were Bob Tyler and Mullen. We get what we pay for, a history of continued failure while doing the same cheap thing over and over expecting a different result.

We could have hired more experienced football coaches if we tried to and were willing to pay to do so. That's our real issue in football. Or at least one of the biggest ones.

We hold ourselves back so much in football with fallacies and limitations we place on ourselves for no reason.

[DownwardDawg]

Mullen to State!!!!!!!!!

[Todd4State]

Mullen to State!!!!!!!!!

Speaking of holding ourselves back...

[BravesDoggy]

We are an OTJ training program for FB HC (Hire Assistants who most are complete failures) and AD's. The successful Asst type AD's that we hire are poached very quickly. The duds stay forever, LT, or stay long enough to do serious damage to our programs, Cohen. The only sitting former AD that I remember hiring in my approx 62 year fandom is Carl Maddox. Only Asst FB coaches who became successful were Bob Tyler and Mullen. We get what we pay for, a history of continued failure while doing the same cheap thing over and over expecting a different result.

It's a crapshoot either way, but let's stop acting like poor ol MSU is the only school that hires coordinators. 7 of the 16 current SEC head coaches were coordinators or position coaches at the time of their hiring.

We heard rumors in our past hiring cycles from everything from Sarkisian, to Barry Odom, to Chizik and we had just as many people shitting on those potential hires. People poor mouthed Malzahn as a potential hire. The bottom line is many in this fan base aren't ever going to be happy with anything and that is a big problem with MSU. The fanbase is so divided and so fickle that we shit on our own opportunities before any opponent ever has a chance to do so.

[confucius say]

It's a crapshoot either way, but let's stop acting like poor ol MSU is the only school that hires coordinators. 7 of the 16 current SEC head coaches were coordinators or position coaches at the time of their hiring.

We heard rumors in our past hiring cycles from everything from Sarkisian, to Barry Odom, to Chizik and we had just as many people shitting on those potential hires. People poor mouthed Malzahn as a potential hire. The bottom line is many in this fan base aren't ever going to be happy with anything and that is a big problem with MSU. The fanbase is so divided and so fickle that we shit on our own opportunities before any opponent ever has a chance to do so.

Fair

[BeardoMSU]

Will there be another push for some ED member to be AD again, lol?

[gtowndawg]

We could have hired more experienced football coaches if we tried to and were willing to pay to do so. That's our real issue in football. Or at least one of the biggest ones.

We hold ourselves back so much in football with fallacies and limitations we place on ourselves for no reason.

I cut back on reading this board because there are so many people that act like we should just give up on football totally. We have such a losing mentality as a group it's depressing to read sometimes.

[Tater]

He's not the favorite. There's 4 or 5 names above his accd to some OU people. He's on the list, but he's not at the top of it. They'd have to strike out on some candidates before. And unlike when he interviewed for our job, they already know him. There's nothing he's going to do to blow them away like he did our people.

Steve. I don't question you on MSU things. Don't question me on OU things. I have more connections within OU than most on here with State. There is a reason my profile picture is horns down ffs.

Right now those 3 are the early list. If a couple guys have their way, it will be Hocutt. He's done a phenomenal job with fundraising at Tech. But Selmon has the more recency / connections advantage overall. Selmon is ahead of Bowman because Bowman is basically following the same path as Selmon just a few years behind.

Is there a source that says he is the favorite? Or is that your opinion?

Family is my source.

[BrunswickDawg]

It's a crapshoot either way, but let's stop acting like poor ol MSU is the only school that hires coordinators. 7 of the 16 current SEC head coaches were coordinators or position coaches at the time of their hiring.

UGA has only hired 1 experienced college HC in the history of the their program. Jim Donnan. Every other one was an assistant.

[cheewgumm]

If Lebby fails, I am definitely on the hire Mullen back wagon.

I am rooting for Lebby though as I think he will be good.

Just saying.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Steve. I don't question you on MSU things. Don't question me on OU things. I have more connections within OU than most on here with State. There is a reason my profile picture is horns down ffs.

Right now those 3 are the early list. If a couple guys have their way, it will be Hocutt. He's done a phenomenal job with fundraising at Tech. But Selmon has the more recency / connections advantage overall. Selmon is ahead of Bowman because Bowman is basically following the same path as Selmon just a few years behind.



Family is my source.

Not doubting your sourcing Tater. I was just passing along what some OU people told me this morning. They were the first ones to mention Lebby to State to me back in October of 24. They said Selmon is on the shortlist but Kirby Hocutt is at the top of the list and there's some push for Michael Alford to get a look as well due to his time under Castiglione. They told me the big money people want Hocutt because they love what he did with the fundraising arm at Tech. Now, I personally think they're probably giving him too much credit and trying to act like he brought Cody Campbell in from the desert or something. But if that's what ends up keeping Selmon here then let them believe that.

[StarkVegasSteve]

If Lebby fails, I am definitely on the hire Mullen back wagon.

I am rooting for Lebby though as I think he will be good.

Just saying.

I want to see how Mullen operates in this new NIL era. I also worry that we could pull him from UNLV for at least 3 years. Cannon is a big time basketball recruit now and is at Bishop Gorman. I would be surprised to see Dan make a move to Mississippi State and make Cannon transfer to Starkville Academy. Now if you told me Dan did well at UNLV and he took the Maryland job so Cannon could go to Dematha, I'd believe that.