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    Let's Build some Baseball condos

    We will break insane attendance records soon.

    I do wish we can somehow one day, included the condo attendance and upper deck as part of the attendance numbers.

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    I'm sorry to be that guy, I'm excited for O'Conner, but please for the love of God let's not spend a bunch of money on baseball when we are so behind in football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtowndawg View Post
    I'm sorry to be that guy, I'm excited for O'Conner, but please for the love of God let's not spend a bunch of money on baseball when we are so behind in football.
    You are THAT guy. We could spend and extra $15 million per year on Football and still be in the bottom 1/3 of the SEC. We could spend an extra $4 mil per year on baseball players and be in the Top 1/3 of the league. We could spend an extra $5 mil per year on basketball and stay in the Top 1/3 of the league.

    Football 105 scholarships plus NIL
    Baseball 35 scholarships plus NIL
    Basketball 15 scholarships plus NIL

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    this^^^^^^

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    The original condos were built for around 8 million (pre covid price increases). A new set will probably be north of $10 million now. They will likely wait until the original set is fully paid off from lease payments and roof rentals before leveraging more. The original design did allow room for another set of condos from just outside the left field foul pole meeting the other set so they can share a stairway/egress in the middle.

    they would also need to plan to do this in one off season (7-8 months). They could pre-order steel and long lead items to make it work. Gonna need a good steel erector and brick mason for that schedule. I hope it happens soon.

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    I know plenty brick layers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtowndawg View Post
    I'm sorry to be that guy, I'm excited for O'Conner, but please for the love of God let's not spend a bunch of money on baseball when we are so behind in football.
    Don't we rent them out for football weekends? and basketball?
    I was thinking more of a profit center , but with the high of the baseball expectations driving up pricing.

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    annual lease

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    The footings and plumbing are already in the ground for the second set (for once someone had foresight). So only upward erection is needed for the second set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinto View Post
    The footings and plumbing are already in the ground for the second set (for once someone had foresight). So only upward erection is needed for the second set.
    correct on the footings. I know site fire lines were pre-planned, but I cant remember on the sanitary sewer but it can't be that far to tap in regardless.

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    I know plenty brick layers.

    LOL Well played.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainObvious View Post
    You are THAT guy. We could spend and extra $15 million per year on Football and still be in the bottom 1/3 of the SEC. We could spend an extra $4 mil per year on baseball players and be in the Top 1/3 of the league. We could spend an extra $5 mil per year on basketball and stay in the Top 1/3 of the league.

    Football 105 scholarships plus NIL
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    Basketball 15 scholarships plus NIL
    Look, I know you guys love baseball and get emotional aboout it. I have no problem with that, I hope we do good to. But I also believe in making rational, well thought out decisions that benefit the entire university and athletic department, not a niche sport (compared to football and basketball). If more condos produce net revenue that can be used to supplement football and basketball by all means, let's do it. But I highly doubt that is the case.

    Selmon seems to be pretty discerning when it comes to revenue matters, so I'll yield to his decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtowndawg View Post
    Look, I know you guys love baseball and get emotional aboout it. I have no problem with that, I hope we do good to. But I also believe in making rational, well thought out decisions that benefit the entire university and athletic department, not a niche sport (compared to football and basketball). If more condos produce net revenue that can be used to supplement football and basketball by all means, let's do it. But I highly doubt that is the case.

    Selmon seems to be pretty discerning when it comes to revenue matters, so I'll yield to his decisions.
    Trust me. Selmon cares more about football and men’s basketball. He understand how important baseball is here but he will never lose sight of the bigger picture. And that is that football and men’s basketball pay the bills of everything else on campus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Trust me. Selmon cares more about football and men?s basketball. He understand how important baseball is here but he will never lose sight of the bigger picture. And that is that football and men?s basketball pay the bills of everything else on campus.
    Also, and has been mentioned here already, baseball is big for the local economy in the spring than other SEC towns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainObvious View Post
    You are THAT guy. We could spend and extra $15 million per year on Football and still be in the bottom 1/3 of the SEC. We could spend an extra $4 mil per year on baseball players and be in the Top 1/3 of the league. We could spend an extra $5 mil per year on basketball and stay in the Top 1/3 of the league.

    Football 105 scholarships plus NIL
    Baseball 35 scholarships plus NIL
    Basketball 15 scholarships plus NIL
    And if you don't, you could be in CUSA in a few years. This hire is perfect timing as much as anything. No more lying Lemonis here to claim we got no money too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtowndawg View Post
    Look, I know you guys love baseball and get emotional aboout it. I have no problem with that, I hope we do good to. But I also believe in making rational, well thought out decisions that benefit the entire university and athletic department, not a niche sport (compared to football and basketball). If more condos produce net revenue that can be used to supplement football and basketball by all means, let's do it. But I highly doubt that is the case.

    Selmon seems to be pretty discerning when it comes to revenue matters, so I'll yield to his decisions.
    So you skipped right over the part where I mentioned you could spend $15 million extra on Football and still be in the bottom 1/3 of the conference. You did not see me say "don't spend on football". So sure. You baseball is a niche (whatever that is in the sports world) sport guys can wave your magic wand and poof, all athletics spending goes to football and we will STILL go 5-7 to 8-4 tops in this conference and still have some 4-8 years sprinkled in. If Football is your main and only focus, Tuscaloosa is about 85 miles >>> that way! Most of us would whether have a more well rounded athletics program and target the areas State can be more successful! Historically, that has been Baseball, Tennis and Women's Golf. Of those 3 I'd rather spend on Baseball.

    But if you go back to my point, I actually gave more expenditures to Basketball.

    Football 105 Scholarships -$15 million extra to go 5-7 or 8-4 and making a bowl game 3 out of every 4 to 5 years.
    Basketball 15 scholarships -$5 million extra to go to NCAA 3 out of every 5 years and the NIT or CBI the other 2.
    Baseball 35 scholarships - $4 million extra to go to a Regional EVERY Year, Host a regional 3 out of every 5 years, make it to Omaha 3 to 4 times per 10 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainObvious View Post
    So you skipped right over the part where I mentioned you could spend $15 million extra on Football and still be in the bottom 1/3 of the conference. You did not see me say "don't spend on football". So sure. You baseball is a niche (whatever that is in the sports world) sport guys can wave your magic wand and poof, all athletics spending goes to football and we will STILL go 5-7 to 8-4 tops in this conference and still have some 4-8 years sprinkled in. If Football is your main and only focus, Tuscaloosa is about 85 miles >>> that way! Most of us would whether have a more well rounded athletics program and target the areas State can be more successful! Historically, that has been Baseball, Tennis and Women's Golf. Of those 3 I'd rather spend on Baseball.

    But if you go back to my point, I actually gave more expenditures to Basketball.

    Football 105 Scholarships -$15 million extra to go 5-7 or 8-4 and making a bowl game 3 out of every 4 to 5 years.
    Basketball 15 scholarships -$5 million extra to go to NCAA 3 out of every 5 years and the NIT or CBI the other 2.
    Baseball 35 scholarships - $4 million extra to go to a Regional EVERY Year, Host a regional 3 out of every 5 years, make it to Omaha 3 to 4 times per 10 years.
    maybe some start to follow along

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainObvious View Post
    So you skipped right over the part where I mentioned you could spend $15 million extra on Football and still be in the bottom 1/3 of the conference. You did not see me say "don't spend on football". So sure. You baseball is a niche (whatever that is in the sports world) sport guys can wave your magic wand and poof, all athletics spending goes to football and we will STILL go 5-7 to 8-4 tops in this conference and still have some 4-8 years sprinkled in. If Football is your main and only focus, Tuscaloosa is about 85 miles >>> that way! Most of us would whether have a more well rounded athletics program and target the areas State can be more successful! Historically, that has been Baseball, Tennis and Women's Golf. Of those 3 I'd rather spend on Baseball.

    But if you go back to my point, I actually gave more expenditures to Basketball.

    Football 105 Scholarships -$15 million extra to go 5-7 or 8-4 and making a bowl game 3 out of every 4 to 5 years.
    Basketball 15 scholarships -$5 million extra to go to NCAA 3 out of every 5 years and the NIT or CBI the other 2.
    Baseball 35 scholarships - $4 million extra to go to a Regional EVERY Year, Host a regional 3 out of every 5 years, make it to Omaha 3 to 4 times per 10 years.
    The crazy part is we could add $25m to the $35m we spent last year and still be in the bottom half of the SEC in football spending.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainObvious View Post
    So you skipped right over the part where I mentioned you could spend $15 million extra on Football and still be in the bottom 1/3 of the conference. You did not see me say "don't spend on football". So sure. You baseball is a niche (whatever that is in the sports world) sport guys can wave your magic wand and poof, all athletics spending goes to football and we will STILL go 5-7 to 8-4 tops in this conference and still have some 4-8 years sprinkled in. If Football is your main and only focus, Tuscaloosa is about 85 miles >>> that way! Most of us would whether have a more well rounded athletics program and target the areas State can be more successful! Historically, that has been Baseball, Tennis and Women's Golf. Of those 3 I'd rather spend on Baseball.

    But if you go back to my point, I actually gave more expenditures to Basketball.

    Football 105 Scholarships -$15 million extra to go 5-7 or 8-4 and making a bowl game 3 out of every 4 to 5 years.
    Basketball 15 scholarships -$5 million extra to go to NCAA 3 out of every 5 years and the NIT or CBI the other 2.
    Baseball 35 scholarships - $4 million extra to go to a Regional EVERY Year, Host a regional 3 out of every 5 years, make it to Omaha 3 to 4 times per 10 years.
    You'd be wrong about that part too. Add $15MM to the about $10 MM we spend in NIL and you're at $25MM. That gets you serious talent. OM didn't touch that number and got good talent. Plus, you cannot build your athletics around baseball. We aren't throwing a bunch of extra money at baseball, this buyout was cheap and we've always had the money on that side. Just a bunch of dumb 17s defending mediocrity in baseball to protect fat boy access.

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    who you calling fat, phat boy?

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