Lots of chatter so some may need to brace themselves

[confucius say]

Crowd size indicates overall interest in the program. It is not going to win you recruits or games but it may show a potential hire that we give a 17 and will care when it comes to giving towards NIL.

We have had multiple starters the last two years who said publicly that crowd size and environment is why they chose us. Hujsac said it every interview.
It's not end all be all, but it matters.

[confucius say]

That's the point, we'll still be behind several SEC schools we're behind now. We won't move up in the pecking order much if at all.

Lemonis said point blank that we were middle of sec in nil funding.
But that said, he wasn't a great recruiter. Overweight people who are not Type A guys rarely are.
You get a dynamic recruiter like Cann and money won't be our issue.

[cheewgumm]

Lemonis said point blank that we were middle of sec in nil funding.
But that said, he wasn't a great recruiter. Overweight people who are not Type A guys rarely are.
You get a dynamic recruiter like Cann and money won't be our issue.

Hahaha

Sorry, you are too fat to coach here

[confucius say]

Hahaha

Sorry, you are too fat to coach here

Funny I know. But you don't see many really overweight people who are great recruiters. Especially when they aren't alphas.

[Coach34]

It's kinda iffy to call Oregon a "lower P4" program just so that you can turn out to be right. If it's O'Connor is Virginia a lower P4 program too? Can you spin Bakich into being "lower P4" because Clemson doesn't commit to baseball and he was at Michigan before that?

Oregon has 100% been lower P4 and has only recently had success due to them finally funding baseball

The upper ACC’s are not lower P5. Clemson, Virgin, and Wake have been good programs for awhile.

[Coach34]

Funny I know. But you don't see many really overweight people who are great recruiters. Especially when they aren't alphas.

John Madden, Bill Parcells, and others disagree

[BeardoMSU]

Especially when they aren't alphas.

Hire Andrew Tate, I guess**

[cheewgumm]

Wes Johnson must have heard there was also a height limit so he pulled out and stayed and a school with no limit.

[confucius say]

John Madden, Bill Parcells, and others disagree

Neither of those guys were great recruiters. Madden barely even coached college. And parcels wasn't obese for most of his life.
Lemonis has a huge gut. Great guy. Really like him. But he's way overweight for somebody 5'10" and not an alpha.

[Quaoarsking]

Oregon has 100% been lower P4 and has only recently had success due to them finally funding baseball

The upper ACC’s are not lower P5. Clemson, Virgin, and Wake have been good programs for awhile.

In 4 full years under Wasikowski, Oregon made a Regional every year, hosting twice and winning twice. They're about to host again, and we'll see, but I bet they win again.

That's not "lower P5." Literally 0 people on this board or others were thinking Wasikowski when they predicted we would get a "lower P5" coach.

And the fact that you threw Wake Forest out there as not being "lower P5" when by any objective standards they're a worse program than Oregon (whether you start in 2021 or go back further) is baffling.

[Todd4State]

Well usually when a Coach and school have issues, a buyout can be done without much trouble. Let?s hope things workout for whoever we been talking to. Seems all have a buyout.

This is exactly what I am saying. Buyouts are negotiable. Especially when a school doesn't want the coach and the coach doesn't want to be there.

[Quaoarsking]

Oregon restarted baseball in 2009. That's 15 completed seasons, not counting 2020 or 2025.

In that stretch, they've played in 9 Regionals, hosting 3 times (twice as a top 8 seed) and winning 3 of them. That's not spectacular, but they've come on strong this decade, but about half of P4 programs are worse. Hell, it's only 1 fewer Regional appearance than we have in that same time period

In that same stretch, Wake Forest has only made a Regional 5 times, winning 2 and hosting twice (once as a top 8 seed).

We can argue back and forth on what the cutoff of "lower" P5 is, and I'm pretty confident Oregon doesn't belong there, but you killed your own argument when you threw Wake Forest out there.

[Todd4State]

Does Kendall Rogers get a little kick back for his hype tweets? Got Wes a Raise!

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stor...-through-2031/

He absolutely should.

[confucius say]

Oregon is a top 5 team in the country by almost every poll. I think one poll has them 6.
They are not lower P4.
Was would be an incredible hire. Probably the best hire in our history at the time of the hire.

[Todd4State]

Lemonis said point blank that we were middle of sec in nil funding.
But that said, he wasn't a great recruiter. Overweight people who are not Type A guys rarely are.
You get a dynamic recruiter like Cann and money won't be our issue.

If we're middle of the SEC in NIL funding that was partially on Lemonis. We have how many MLB players and former MLB players all highly invested in the program? I wonder how many of those players he contacted? I love Jake Mangum and Tanner Allen but guys like that are not going to help us with their minor league salaries and MLB minimums.

We've seen Clark and Palmeiro come back plenty. How often have we seen Papelbon? Maholm? Frazier? Renfroe? Etc? Not to mention we could probably get some NIL from people like Roy Oswalt who Lemonis pissed off because he wouldn't let him work with our pitchers after we fired Foxhall. Just a few of those players alone could buy us an elite team without putting much of a dent in their pockets not to mention what our fans donate already.

And what our fans donate would likely go up with a hire of an elite coach. I think O'Conner, Backich,Waz, and etc. would be able to generate that kind of excitement pretty quickly.

[Todd4State]

Oregon is a top 5 team in the country by almost every poll. I think one poll has them 6.
They are not lower P4.
Was would be an incredible hire. Probably the best hire in our history at the time of the hire.

And it seems like he is a bit on the rise too. Watching his team play- they do not play like a West Coast college baseball team at all.

I think you could say that about a couple of the potential candidates though.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Hire Andrew Tate, I guess**

That was Cannizarro the Cajun Andrew Tate, didn't work

To be fair, Schloss is not an alpha anything. Looks like a 5ft 11in crooked cop but he can coach baseball and snagged great recruits everywhere he goes.

Maybe the douche bag look is an asset in baseball coaching. O'Sullivan has that Summers Eve vibe too.

[msudawg1200]

John Madden, Bill Parcells, and others disagree

Uh, Parcells didn't get fat until he got older with the Cowboys, and he put the A in Type A personality. Ever heard him go at it with Phil Simms or Lawrence Taylor?

[Coursesuper]

If we're middle of the SEC in NIL funding that was partially on Lemonis. We have how many MLB players and former MLB players all highly invested in the program? I wonder how many of those players he contacted? I love Jake Mangum and Tanner Allen but guys like that are not going to help us with their minor league salaries and MLB minimums.

We've seen Clark and Palmeiro come back plenty. How often have we seen Papelbon? Maholm? Frazier? Renfroe? Etc? Not to mention we could probably get some NIL from people like Roy Oswalt who Lemonis pissed off because he wouldn't let him work with our pitchers after we fired Foxhall. Just a few of those players alone could buy us an elite team without putting much of a dent in their pockets not to mention what our fans donate already.

And what our fans donate would likely go up with a hire of an elite coach. I think O'Conner, Backich,Waz, and etc. would be able to generate that kind of excitement pretty quickly.

You are way off base here, that wasn't on Lemon that was on your former AD who the majority of them hated his ass. He did so many dumbass things with these guys before and when he was AD and I can't blame them. We have a few coming back, two of them are the ones that have put the majority of the money for the buyout up and they are also helping with the new staff. But the majority still don't trust the new admin yet, hopefully is slowly changing. We have players that didn't make it to the show have done very very well for themselves in life and will be a significant help along with the ones who you mention.

[confucius say]

That was Cannizarro the Cajun Andrew Tate, didn't work

To be fair, Schloss is not an alpha anything. Looks like a 5ft 11in crooked cop but he can coach baseball and snagged great recruits everywhere he goes.

Maybe the douche bag look is an asset in baseball coaching. O'Sullivan has that Summers Eve vibe too.

Ha, the crooked cop comparison is good!

But he's doesn't have a gut.