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05-11-2025, 06:46 PM
#241
Find someone that loves you like some Mississippi State fans love the idea of hiring our former players and assistant coaches.
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05-11-2025, 09:27 PM
#242

Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Does it really have to be said? He's part of the reason we are where we are.
He's really not. We were worse off without Parker - Parker actually got Lemonis another year
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05-11-2025, 09:35 PM
#243

Originally Posted by
MetEdDawg
I'll wait for a good argument why not. No one has said anything about his capability. Just that we are going to blow the program up and start from scratch.
I have yet to hear anyone actually make a cogent argument why he's not qualified. Someone said misuse of bullpen Friday night. In that same vein, he led Evan Siary to strike out 15 Rebels (although that's no longer impressive because according to many now a series win over a ranked Ole Miss team is no longer a good win).
I'm not saying he should be the guy. I'm just saying I still really haven't seen why not other than we need to blow everything up and start over, even though the same people admit this team should be good enough to win.
I agree with you 100%. People forget the Foxhall was great when he got here then regressed annually. Auburn is much improved with Foxhall now. Same with Parker - he came in here as a top tier pitching coach and instantly turned our pitching around. This year hasn't been as good and that's where we seem to have a common denominator who is no longer leading the program. If we were looking at Parker back in 2023 before he was here, we would all think differently.
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05-11-2025, 10:47 PM
#244

Originally Posted by
Cowbell
I agree with you 100%. People forget the Foxhall was great when he got here then regressed annually. Auburn is much improved with Foxhall now. Same with Parker - he came in here as a top tier pitching coach and instantly turned our pitching around. This year hasn't been as good and that's where we seem to have a common denominator who is no longer leading the program. If we were looking at Parker back in 2023 before he was here, we would all think differently.
Foxhall isn't the pitching coach at AU and Butch knows pitching. Parker failed to sign portal talent, especially starters, nor managed well this year with what he had. I'm not saying he's a terrible pitching coach, but he's not done his job well this season.
Last edited by Cooterpoot; 05-11-2025 at 10:49 PM.
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05-12-2025, 12:53 AM
#245

Originally Posted by
KOdawg1
Find someone that loves you like some Mississippi State fans love the idea of hiring our former players and assistant coaches.
And those fans that think that Parker should get a chance need to ask themselves- what has Parker done that Lemonis wouldn't have so far?
Beat Memphis? Not sure that Lemonis ever lost to them. If he did it wasn't often.
Beat Kentucky? I think we win that series with Lemonis but probably don't sweep because for that one weekend we managed the staff better than usual.
Beat Ole Miss? Lemonis did that routinely. This weekend probably wouldn't have been much different honestly. It's not like we were noticeably less sloppy. Even the one year Lemonis lost the series to them- which I believe was when Loo got hurt early in his start after we ran through our bullpen- Lemonis still won the Governor's Cup and then ended their season with the Auger/Hujsack game to go 3-2 on the year.
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05-12-2025, 12:54 AM
#246

Originally Posted by
Cowbell
He's really not. We were worse off without Parker - Parker actually got Lemonis another year
And that's because Parker is infinitely better at pitcher development. From rumors I have heard Foxhall did very little other than try to generate velo.
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05-12-2025, 08:18 AM
#247

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
And that's because Parker is infinitely better at pitcher development. From rumors I have heard Foxhall did very little other than try to generate velo.
He may be good at development but he sucks at defining roles. I think another bullpen guy is our closer each and every week.
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05-12-2025, 08:48 AM
#248

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
He may be good at development but he sucks at defining roles. I think another bullpen guy is our closer each and every week.
I have same issue. The closer is Dotson today. Davis will be the closer tomorrow. McPherson might be the closer the day after that.
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05-12-2025, 03:34 PM
#249

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
He may be good at development but he sucks at defining roles. I think another bullpen guy is our closer each and every week.

Originally Posted by
BigDawg81
I have same issue. The closer is Dotson today. Davis will be the closer tomorrow. McPherson might be the closer the day after that.
Exactly.
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05-13-2025, 09:40 AM
#250

Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
"Consider it" in the sense that he would be a fallback if a dozen other candidates say no, sure.
If we didn't hire Henderson (who had years of SEC head coaching experience) after taking us on a deep Omaha run, we won't hire Parker after just a Super Regional unless there's just no one else.
That was what I was trying to say
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05-13-2025, 09:53 AM
#251
If it comes down to State falling so far down in the baseball world as to having to hire a "fallback" guy, go ahead and put a padlock on the gates. That facility will make a nice amphitheater for future outdoor concerts.
IF State IS who we THINK they are and whom many SAY they are in Baseball, the next Head Coach should have one if the Top Pedigrees in the country OR be one of the Top 3 Rising Stars in College Baseball Coaching Circles!
Parker doesn't fit that any more than Lemonis did! Nor does Burroughs, Mingione, or any number of lower level somewhat successful head coaches. The Delta State HC is successful this year. The William Carey HC is successful this year. Or we interviewing them? Not likely. Don't lower our standards now just because Cohen did!
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05-13-2025, 10:53 AM
#252

Originally Posted by
CaptainObvious
If it comes down to State falling so far down in the baseball world as to having to hire a "fallback" guy, go ahead and put a padlock on the gates. That facility will make a nice amphitheater for future outdoor concerts.
IF State IS who we THINK they are and whom many SAY they are in Baseball, the next Head Coach should have one if the Top Pedigrees in the country OR be one of the Top 3 Rising Stars in College Baseball Coaching Circles!
Parker doesn't fit that any more than Lemonis did! Nor does Burroughs, Mingione, or any number of lower level somewhat successful head coaches. The Delta State HC is successful this year. The William Carey HC is successful this year. Or we interviewing them? Not likely. Don't lower our standards now just because Cohen did!
The game changer is that keeping up with Football and Basketball is killing the all the other Conferences that are not the SEC. Big Issue: The SEC is scholarship'n 34 baseball players. The overall SEC does not have the Olimpic sports or Men's Soccer, Lacrosse, Hockey, Wrestling, and Swimming and Diving to constrain athletic budget allocation for baseball. Also, the SEC does not have intercontinental travel like the Big 10 and Big XII. Those guys have to fly volleyball, Golf, Tennis and WBB teams all over the nation.
The ACC might get 15 to 20. The other conferences will continue with the 11.7 players. This is going to kill off East Carolina, SoCon, many ACC, and many BIG XII programs. The BIG 10 does not lack in money for scholarships but lacks for baseball NIL, coach salary, fan interest, and facilities. The SEC schools are offering parents a huge value. Elite baseball, high MLB visibility, Education that can take you anywhere, and a full scholarship.
So Walters, Bakich, O'Conner, MacDonnell, Ostrander, Saarloos, Canham (Oregon State), and Godwin are on sinking competitive ships. They are looking at 12 SEC schools that can viably win national championships. About 3/4 of the 12 schools have a solid coaching situation. LSU, UGA, UF, Tenn, Vandy, Texas, Ark, and Aub. There only a few championship schools left for a new guy to earn.
These experienced coaches will be fighting to stay in the top-20 while the SEC is going to own the top-10. Plus they have young buck assistant coaches like Elander, Coggins, Weiner, Cain, Thompson, etc that may snake the remaining good jobs.
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05-13-2025, 10:58 AM
#253

Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
The game changer is that keeping up with Football and Basketball is killing the all the other Conferences that are not the SEC. Big Issue: The SEC is scholarship'n 34 baseball players. The overall SEC does not have the Olimpic sports or Men's Soccer, Lacrosse, Hockey, Wrestling, and Swimming and Diving to constrain athletic budget allocation for baseball. Also, the SEC does not have intercontinental travel like the Big 10 and Big XII. Those guys have to fly volleyball, Golf, Tennis and WBB teams all over the nation.
The ACC might get 15 to 20. The other conferences will continue with the 11.7 players. This is going to kill off East Carolina, SoCon, many ACC, and many BIG XII programs. The BIG 10 does not lack in money for scholarships but lacks for baseball NIL, coach salary, fan interest, and facilities. The SEC schools are offering parents a huge value. Elite baseball, high MLB visibility, Education that can take you anywhere, and a full scholarship.
So Walters, Bakich, O'Conner, MacDonnell, Ostrander, Saarloos, Canham (Oregon State), and Godwin are on sinking competitive ships. They are looking at 12 SEC schools that can viably win national championships. About 3/4 of the 12 schools have a solid coaching situation. LSU, UGA, UF, Tenn, Vandy, Texas, Ark, and Aub. There only a few championship schools left for a new guy to earn.
These experienced coaches will be fighting to stay in the top-20 while the SEC is going to own the top-10. Plus they have young buck assistant coaches like Elander, Coggins, Weiner, Cain, Thompson, etc that may snake the remaining good jobs.
This makes me want season baseball tickets(if ever possible) and to enjoy this ride of SEC quality baseball the next decade.
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05-13-2025, 11:47 AM
#254

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
And those fans that think that Parker should get a chance need to ask themselves- what has Parker done that Lemonis wouldn't have so far?
Beat Memphis? Not sure that Lemonis ever lost to them. If he did it wasn't often.
Beat Kentucky? I think we win that series with Lemonis but probably don't sweep because for that one weekend we managed the staff better than usual.
Beat Ole Miss? Lemonis did that routinely. This weekend probably wouldn't have been much different honestly. It's not like we were noticeably less sloppy. Even the one year Lemonis lost the series to them- which I believe was when Loo got hurt early in his start after we ran through our bullpen- Lemonis still won the Governor's Cup and then ended their season with the Auger/Hujsack game to go 3-2 on the year.
Our catcher that everyone loved, Johnny, played a huge part in that series loss to ole miss. But, Lemonis still lost it. Only time in 9 years.
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05-13-2025, 01:53 PM
#255
The abortion that was leaving Pico in Friday and the relievers Saturday were enough for me to put the dagger in having Parker as the HC.
Plus, our pitching has been poor overall this year.
If he is the HC I will be disappointed.
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05-13-2025, 02:15 PM
#256

Originally Posted by
SPMT
The abortion that was leaving Pico in Friday and the relievers Saturday were enough for me to put the dagger in having Parker as the HC.
Plus, our pitching has been poor overall this year.
If he is the HC I will be disappointed.
Tell me you don’t understand baseball without saying it. He did exactly the right thing leaving him out there. We didn’t burn anymore arms than necessary and we weren’t exactly wearing Elliot out. We saved our arms for the next two games we had to have. Bianco made the mistake of using his closer for no reason and lost him for the rest of the series. That said Parker ain’t the guy. If he is this is a wreck.
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05-13-2025, 02:54 PM
#257

Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
Tell me you don’t understand baseball without saying it. He did exactly the right thing leaving him out there. We didn’t burn anymore arms than necessary and we weren’t exactly wearing Elliot out. We saved our arms for the next two games we had to have. Bianco made the mistake of using his closer for no reason and lost him for the rest of the series. That said Parker ain’t the guy. If he is this is a wreck.
Could have done the same with Mannell coming in sooner and by using Dane Burns if the game got out of hand.
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05-13-2025, 03:25 PM
#258

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Could have done the same with Mannell coming in sooner and by using Dane Burns if the game got out of hand.
By the time he was done it was over, needed to save every bullet, we don’t know the Siary is going to throw the game of his life in game two. Cut bait and move on, go get em in the next one.
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05-13-2025, 04:16 PM
#259
I'm feeling good when Bo Bounds is throwing out distraction names & coaches are denying interest. We're getting a good coach!
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05-13-2025, 04:39 PM
#260

Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
By the time he was done it was over, needed to save every bullet, we don’t know the Siary is going to throw the game of his life in game two. Cut bait and move on, go get em in the next one.
That's why you have to play to win in the moment and figure out the rest later. We make it harder on ourselves because we aren't willing to let guy pitch more than once a series usually although that has gotten better under Parker. We still barely pitched McPherson.
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