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true. as bad as i hate to say it
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
The problem is these are the same people that put Cohen in charge as AD. And then led the charge to hire Arnett.
It's all good to them though. They get their access and get to remain anonymous while things burn down because Keenum's going to take the blame for them when it doesn't work out.
Our only hope is that their track record is used against them. Which is basically 0-fer. AND that our MLB guys money is enough to offset theirs. Meaning guys like Papelbon and Will Clark might have to make some football donations soon.
This is as close to the truth as y'all are going to see in public. These are some entitled mother17res that don't care about anything but what they want. They have a candidate they want, they are going to twist things and block things as long as it takes until it goes in their favor and the get their guy. Program be damned as long as the get their win. We Are Misitippy Tate.
Last edited by Coursesuper; 05-05-2025 at 07:56 AM.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Money/Access is fighting baseball knowledge/MLB dawgs
Madison Co. vs Mississippi State.....Round 2.
Hopefully we learn from what happened last time.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Exactly. Access is not hard to grant.
Or.....and this is controversial....tell them to stop being a bunch of losers who hang out with college kids and their girlfriends. Tell them to cut the GD checks and get the 17 out of the way. That's the way real programs do it. The actual money people do that. It's the 50K millionaires in our fan base who expect to be treated like multi million dollar donors.
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It's time to start naming names so we really know who runs our athletic department if it isn't the AD.
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Originally Posted by
Mjoelner34
It's time to start naming names so we really know who runs our athletic department if it isn't the AD.
Under Cohen, it was the baseball boosters and the Madison Co bros. Selmon has taken it back, but it still having to deal with them because they became so empowered under Cohen.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Or.....and this is controversial....tell them to stop being a bunch of losers who hang out with college kids and their girlfriends. Tell them to cut the GD checks and get the 17 out of the way. That's the way real programs do it. The actual money people do that. It's the 50K millionaires in our fan base who expect to be treated like multi million dollar donors.
Someone remind them that being a millionaire is just like being the tallest little person(PC terminology).
Now deca and higher millionaires that actually donate more....we maybe need treat differently.
Last edited by Santiago; 05-05-2025 at 08:12 AM.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
This kind of shit is exactly why I didn't want to fire Lemonis in season. What did we really get? An extra win over Kentucky? Great.
Was it really too much to wait three weeks? ****!
WTF Todd? Every 17ng body is glad Lemongead is gone. Parker ain't getting this job unless he wins the CWS.
Spoiler: He won't win it
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If the new coach turns out bad, they are going to blame it on the Search Committee. A very politically correct good move on their part, don?t you think? I am hoping that they actually greatly consider the search committee prospects.
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Originally Posted by
ScooterDog
If the new coach turns out bad, they are going to blame it on the Search Committee. A very politically correct good move on their part, don?t you think? I am hoping that they actually greatly consider the search committee prospects.
The Parker Group, the firm we are using, is very reputable. They also don't make the choices. They just go find the candidates and then it's up the AD and whoever is helping on the committee to interview and whatnot. The only thing The Parker Group is really doing is vetting stuff for us. They'll compile an initial list, probably 25-30 candidates and will start vetting them. The people that Selmon has around him helping him with this will then go over those results with The Parker Group and narrow that list down to 8-10 names and that is where the search begins in earnest.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
The problem is these are the same people that put Cohen in charge as AD. And then led the charge to hire Arnett.
It's all good to them though. They get their access and get to remain anonymous while things burn down because Keenum's going to take the blame for them when it doesn't work out.
Our only hope is that their track record is used against them. Which is basically 0-fer. AND that our MLB guys money is enough to offset theirs. Meaning guys like Papelbon and Will Clark might have to make some football donations soon.
Yep, and unfortunately there isn't a slam dunk #1 candidate out there for the job now like there was when Byrne hired Cohen. There are a lot of ways this can go so this could definitely get screwed up by the same folks that screwed us over with the Cohen pick as AD and the Arnett pick to be elevated as football HC. I could absolutely see these same folks pushing for Parker over a 4 game sample size especially if they think they already have a relationship with him that they want to hold on to.
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
Yep, and unfortunately there isn't a slam dunk #1 candidate out there for the job now like there was when Byrne hired Cohen. There are a lot of ways this can go so this could definitely get screwed up by the same folks that screwed us over with the Cohen pick as AD and the Arnett pick to be elevated as football HC. I could absolutely see these same folks pushing for Parker over a 4 game sample size especially if they think they already have a relationship with him that they want to hold on to.
It's not the relationship with Parker they care about. It's the relationship with Jake and Kyle. They see them out and buy them drinks or invite them to the Scoreboard Club for football and let them drink their alcohol so they'll let them in on stuff. Not anything big but just how the players are progressing. Then when they go to these scrimmages and stuff they already have a built in connection with the coaches so they let them around the players.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
The Parker Group, the firm we are using, is very reputable. They also don't make the choices. They just go find the candidates and then it's up the AD and whoever is helping on the committee to interview and whatnot. The only thing The Parker Group is really doing is vetting stuff for us. They'll compile an initial list, probably 25-30 candidates and will start vetting them. The people that Selmon has around him helping him with this will then go over those results with The Parker Group and narrow that list down to 8-10 names and that is where the search begins in earnest.
This began two months ago. They're well into it now.
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Ideally, announce the coach hire as soon as that coach's season is over. If somehow we are still playing , then announce it anyway. It stops the promotion chatter.
But I am not sure if it helps us on getting to the final candidate with so much interference of alumni.
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Originally Posted by
Santiago
Ideally, announce the coach hire as soon as that coach's season is over. If somehow we are still playing , then announce it anyway. It stops the promotion chatter.
But I am not sure if it helps us on getting to the final candidate with so much interference of alumni.
Bingo. If we announce O'Connor as our new coach the day after the brackets are announced (assuming UVA doesn't make through no fault of O'Connor), then we can all rally around the new coach, and if Parker can make noise in the postseason, cool.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
Bingo. If we announce O'Connor as our new coach the day after the brackets are announced (assuming UVA doesn't make through no fault of O'Connor), then we can all rally around the new coach, and if Parker can make noise in the postseason, cool.
Which is what we should've done in 18 and Schloss would've been our coach.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Which is what we should've done in 18 and Schloss would've been our coach.
Hopefully there are people left in the AD who remember that and will make sure we don't repeat that mistake.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
Hopefully there are people left in the AD who remember that and will make sure we don't repeat that mistake.
I hope there's no one remaining in the athletic dept from that time. That AD staff is the reason we're in all these athletic messes to begin with from meddling boosters, behind in NIL, no consistent messaging, etc.
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Anyone worrying about certain boosters are worrying about absolutely nothing. It's all silly talk and pointless. This hire won't be a current staffer short of a CWS championship and I'm not sure that will even matter if certain coaches want this job
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05-05-2025, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
WTF Todd? Every 17ng body is glad Lemongead is gone. Parker ain't getting this job unless he wins the CWS.
Spoiler: He won't win it
You owe it to the players, parents, ticket holders, SEC good faith, the MSU brand, and Elite Dawgs to fight for the season. Tanking seasons or the last 60 games is something that people hate about MLB.
Parker has a little streak going, yeah he's beaten nobody big, but this spark is valuable for the MSU brand. The reason players like Jake Mangum played 4 years and donated his scholarship is because the season matters. Winning the OM series matters.
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