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04-18-2025, 04:17 PM
#421

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Which is what we did with Murphy. We offered him 1.5. Could we have offered 2.5? Yes. But we didn't see him as a 2.5 million type player.
I feel good about it then .
People can disagree for sure
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04-18-2025, 04:19 PM
#422

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
I personally think we evaluated them perfectly. We knew exactly what they were going to give us.
Yea and I liked them before
The season and don?t think they weee terrible.
Just think evaluating talent is the biggest advantage now if you can do it. I advocated for Mullen to be our coach before we hired Lebby ( though he may be great at it too, we will see) so not jumping on the Bo Bounds wagon, but listened to his podcast yesterday and they talked about it so reminded me.
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04-18-2025, 04:23 PM
#423

Originally Posted by
cheewgumm
Yea and I liked them before
The season and don?t think they weee terrible.
Just think evaluating talent is the biggest advantage now if you can do it. I advocated for Mullen to be our coach before we hired Lebby ( though he may be great at it too, we will see) so not jumping on the Bo Bounds wagon, but listened to his podcast yesterday and they talked about it so reminded me.
Kugel-We knew he was a headcase who could give us 2 or 12. That's exactly what he was.
Harris-We knew he was an average 3 pt shooter who could give us 15-20 minutes a night and maybe he would heat up. That's exactly what he was.
Melendez-We knew he was a streaky 3 pt shooter but a good defender. That's exactly what he was.
Clary-We knew he had issues and we'd have to corral those for him to contribute. When we had him corralled, he contributed.
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04-18-2025, 04:40 PM
#424
What about Achor achor? Why did he only play 7 games this season? Assuming it wasn't disciplinary, I want em
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04-18-2025, 05:26 PM
#425

Originally Posted by
cheewgumm
But we have to be selective in who to pay what.
You don?t just pay people because they ask for money. I know that?s not what you?re saying but I think you have to decide by player.
For instance if we can pay the center we got
Or Murphy, I would pay the new center if he is a shot blocker and good defensively down low.
We have to make those type decisions, right?
Seems the alternative is if someone asked for money, you pay them or you?re losing.
I disagree with that. I would try to pay what I seen them worth.
But its also about what's in your bank account. We didnt pay Murphy 2.5 because we really couldnt afford to do that and get other players that we need. Auburn has a bigger bank account and they afford to pay the 2.5 and still get top notch players.
Thats the difference.
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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04-18-2025, 06:05 PM
#426

Originally Posted by
Coach34
They are doing a helluva job but we dont have Kentucky, Tenn, or UPig basketball money. Cal is making a big move in the portal this year after getting a late start last year.
And say what you want- Murphy will be one among league's best next year. He made great strides this year. He just needs to get a better 3 ball and then he will really tough to guard
Find me a player who goes up 20%+ on 3 point % in a year that isn't one of the best. ****in giant leap we're talking about here.
And do you honestly think Murphy would make that leap for us? lol. I wanted Murphy back but if it was Murphy or 2-3 rotation pieces, I'm taking the latter.
"Once the game starts, it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, July 10th, 2010
"No one ever said it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, June 12th, 2011
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04-18-2025, 06:14 PM
#427

Originally Posted by
Coach34
But its also about what's in your bank account. We didnt pay Murphy 2.5 because we really couldnt afford to do that and get other players that we need. Auburn has a bigger bank account and they afford to pay the 2.5 and still get top notch players.
Thats the difference.
Bruce Pearl has whatever he wants in the bank account. Reports are he offered Flagg from Duke 5 million dollars to transfer to Auburn.
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04-18-2025, 06:26 PM
#428

Originally Posted by
Tater
And do you honestly think Murphy would make that leap for us? lol. I wanted Murphy back but if it was Murphy or 2-3 rotation pieces, I'm taking the latter.
I'm not disagreeing with you that for us- it was better to let him go and use the money we have for a couple of other pieces. But what would have been better than that is to have kept him and added 2-3 more pieces. But with our pocketbook- we were unable to do that. Make no mistake- we didnt want him to leave
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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04-18-2025, 07:29 PM
#429

Originally Posted by
Coach34
I'm not disagreeing with you that for us- it was better to let him go and use the money we have for a couple of other pieces. But what would have been better than that is to have kept him and added 2-3 more pieces. But with our pocketbook- we were unable to do that. Make no mistake- we didnt want him to leave
This sounds very accurate. Murphy showed tremendous improvement, but we can?t spend that kind of money on 1 player if we want to field a full competitive team. Especially since I?m sure we are paying Hubbard basically what he wants
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04-18-2025, 08:56 PM
#430
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04-18-2025, 09:08 PM
#431

Originally Posted by
DEDawg
Achor commits
Like this
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04-18-2025, 09:14 PM
#432
If we don?t make it we should offer Sully.
He?s probably ready to go somewhere else.
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04-18-2025, 09:27 PM
#433
Murphy is a better player than both Walters and Achor.
But both of them combined are better fits of what we're wanting to do at the 4 position. You've got two guys who can space the floor and provide a 3 pt shooting threat. Murph couldn't do that. He and Ballard would've clogged the inside.
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04-18-2025, 09:28 PM
#434

Originally Posted by
DEDawg
Achor commits
Another solid pickup.. all of these guys Jans has gotten are solid but we still need scorers and a true PG
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04-18-2025, 09:35 PM
#435
PG: ???/McGhee/Warren
SG: Hubb/Ali/Grace
SF: ???/Jones/Paul
PF: Achor/Walters/JDF
C: Ballard/Chol/Bartlett
Need a ball controlling guard with some size to offset Hubb at the 2 and then a wing who can score and defend.
Do those two things and I'll really like what we've got. Good combination of size/length and shooting.
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04-18-2025, 09:44 PM
#436

Originally Posted by
PGHBulldogBG
This sounds very accurate. Murphy showed tremendous improvement, but we can?t spend that kind of money on 1 player if we want to field a full competitive team. Especially since I?m sure we are paying Hubbard basically what he wants
Well, we certainly won't get anyone out of the portal as good as Murphy. But I agree it was going to take more than Hubbard, Murphy and a bunch of role players to win next season.
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04-18-2025, 09:54 PM
#437

Originally Posted by
NCMSTFAN
Another solid pickup.. all of these guys Jans has gotten are solid but we still need scorers and a true PG
He's the leader in the clubhouse to be the player most likely to sit out this year
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04-18-2025, 10:27 PM
#438

Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
He's the leader in the clubhouse to be the player most likely to sit out this year
It wouldn't surprise me. To be honest from what I've seen all of these pickups are solid but I'm waiting on that splash player. But Jans does like defensive tough minded players who will get after it and that's what these guys will do.
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04-18-2025, 11:02 PM
#439

Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
He's the leader in the clubhouse to be the player most likely to sit out this year
Why would he sit out?
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04-18-2025, 11:07 PM
#440

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Why would he sit out?
He's just saying Jans has had guys in back to back portal classes sit out/quit. The white kid from Marshall 2 years ago and Clary last year.
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