Basketball Transfer Portal Thread

[NCMSTFAN]

Well, have you seen his portal hauls? They've not been good, which takes us back to what I said. I keep waiting on good shooters and good bigs and I get two guys who sit out, an out of shape, soft big, and Claudell. Every year, the basketball crowd crows about the great class and every year, it's a big yawn. It's time to hit big on some guys. Hope it happens!

All facts. People on this board get mad when things like this are said then label you a Jans hater but nothing you said is false. That being said I think we got some solid pickups and Jans isn't done but you are correct we need some big time players if we plan on competing in the SEC because we all see how good it has gotten.

[Coach34]

All facts. People on this board get mad when things like this are said then label you a Jans hater but nothing you said is false. That being said I think we got some solid pickups and Jans isn't done but you are correct we need some big time players if we plan on competing in the SEC because we all see how good it has gotten.

We are competing in the SEC. What we are not doing is winning the SEC. We don’t have the money to do that

[gtowndawg]

The bottom line is we CAN be middle of the pack in the SEC but middle of the pack (right now) means you're good enough to make a Sweet 16 run. I think we would all be very happy with that result right now.

As I've said before, if we can get back to 6-8 wins a year in football, go to bowls, and be a consistent NCAA team with occasional sweet 16 runs, we're in good shape. That's a SOLID athletic program in today's landscape and we are 100% capable of both those things with the right leadership. I have ZERO doubt about that.

[Cooterpoot]

All facts. People on this board get mad when things like this are said then label you a Jans hater but nothing you said is false. That being said I think we got some solid pickups and Jans isn't done but you are correct we need some big time players if we plan on competing in the SEC because we all see how good it has gotten.

Yep, I'm not saying we suck or anything, just we need to start showing some progression with the program at year 4. Id say the same about any sport. And honestly, it should happen faster in basketball than any sport if we're all honest.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Yep, I'm not saying we suck or anything, just we need to start showing some progression with the program at year 4. Id say the same about any sport. And honestly, it should happen faster in basketball than any sport if we're all honest.

Now that I can get behind. And Jans can too. He was not happy with how the season ended. The source on that is Christopher Paul Jans. Said the Bama game just killed us from a momentum standpoint. Said he thought we had it back after OM and A&M but then OU happened. Said the two losses at the end of the year to Texas and Arkansas were two of the toughest losses of his career. Said our kids fought their asses off and deserved to win both, but that's not how this sport is.

[Tripp McNeely]

Yep, I'm not saying we suck or anything, just we need to start showing some progression with the program at year 4. Id say the same about any sport. And honestly, it should happen faster in basketball than any sport if we're all honest.

I know it's not the best measure in this era of college basketball, but his hs classes have gotten better every year. You gotta think that will start showing on the court over the next couple of years, and in this version of the SEC, even a 1-2 win improvement every year is huge!

[StarkVegasSteve]

I know it's not the best sign in this era of college basketball, but his hs classes have gotten better every year. You gotta think that will start showing on the court over the next couple of years, and in this version of the SEC, even a 1-2 win improvement every year is huge!

This current class we are bringing in is far and away the best. There's multiple guys who can actually contribute. This is the best class we've had ratings wise since the Peters, Wright, Kegler, Carter, Ado, Herard class. I think it has the ability to be the best class we've had contribution wise since the Perry, Woodard, Stewart class in 18.

[NCMSTFAN]

We are competing in the SEC. What we are not doing is winning the SEC. We don’t have the money to do that

Of course we competed, you know exactly what point I was trying to make. We finished 8-10 for 10th place in the SEC. Yes I understand how loaded it is but its not going to get any easier anytime soon.

[Coach34]

Of course we competed, you know exactly what point I was trying to make. We finished 8-10 for 10th place in the SEC. Yes I understand how loaded it is but its not going to get any easier anytime soon.

No but my point was middle of the pack of the SEC is what we are going to be. We cant afford to be Top 3 in the SEC. Auburn just bought our 2nd best player and potential All-SEC guy away from us for a million more than we could afford. That is life in the SEC in all sports for us.

[StarkVegasSteve]

No but my point was middle of the pack of the SEC is what we are going to be. We cant afford to be Top 3 in the SEC. Auburn just bought our 2nd best player and potential All-SEC guy away from us for a million more than we could afford. That is life in the SEC in all sports for us.

I'll push back on that one. Oscar and Richard will fund whatever we need. We weren't paying Murphy 2.5 million because he's not worth anything near that. We could've if we wanted to though.

[Coach34]

They are doing a helluva job but we dont have Kentucky, Tenn, or UPig basketball money. Cal is making a big move in the portal this year after getting a late start last year.

And say what you want- Murphy will be one among league's best next year. He made great strides this year. He just needs to get a better 3 ball and then he will really tough to guard

[Cooterpoot]

I know it's not the best measure in this era of college basketball, but his hs classes have gotten better every year. You gotta think that will start showing on the court over the next couple of years, and in this version of the SEC, even a 1-2 win improvement every year is huge!

1-2 wins don't matter unless they're in the big dance. His teams collapse every season and do just enough. Again, not saying I want to fire Jans or the program is terrible, but just looking for advancement. OM has no problem with it. We only had two good players back and one (Murphy) transferred to Auburn. We've signed a couple bigs and a guard. Let's see where it all goes.

[BolognaSandwich]

We are competing in the SEC

Are we though

[cheewgumm]

Murphy might end of being player of the year and I?ll be wrong. I also would encourage anyone to take an extra million of you get the chance. Cant pass that up.

However I would not pay him $2.5m. I dont see him as a difference maker like that.

As we?ve said in here before and Bo Boinds reiterated in a recent show - the most important part of coaching now FOR State - is talent evaluation.

Find underrated players and make them great.

That?s Mullen.

Is it Jans? Don?t know yet.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Murphy might end of being player of the year and I?ll be wrong. I also would encourage anyone to take an extra million of you get the chance. Cant pass that up.

However I would not pay him $2.5m. I dont see him as a difference maker like that.

As we?ve said in here before and Bo Boinds reiterated in a recent show - the most important part of coaching now FOR State - is talent evaluation.

Find underrated players and make them great.

That?s Mullen.

Is it Jans? Don?t know yet.

You're thinking like it's 2019. You can't think that way anymore. Because the minute we make them great, they'll get into the portal and we'll have to replace them Do we have to get lucky with players like that and hope we get the best out of them? Yes. But we also have to win some battles like we did with Quincy Ballard. We need to win a couple of more battles this portal cycle as well.

[NCMSTFAN]

You're thinking like it's 2019. You can't think that way anymore. Because the minute we make them great, they'll get into the portal and we'll have to replace them Do we have to get lucky with players like that and hope we get the best out of them? Yes. But we also have to win some battles like we did with Quincy Ballard. We need to win a couple of more battles this portal cycle as well.

Good point.. agreed

[cheewgumm]

You're thinking like it's 2019. You can't think that way anymore. Because the minute we make them great, they'll get into the portal and we'll have to replace them Do we have to get lucky with players like that and hope we get the best out of them? Yes. But we also have to win some battles like we did with Quincy Ballard. We need to win a couple of more battles this portal cycle as well.

But we have to be selective in who to pay what.

You don?t just pay people because they ask for money. I know that?s not what you?re saying but I think you have to decide by player.

For instance if we can pay the center we got
Or Murphy, I would pay the new center if he is a shot blocker and good defensively down low.

We have to make those type decisions, right?

Seems the alternative is if someone asked for money, you pay them or you?re losing.

I disagree with that. I would try to pay what I seen them worth.

[cheewgumm]

Also on talent evaluation, it seems it?s more important now than 2019z

This seems like a cutting edge thought to me now.

We got a lot of player on basketball last year.

Did we evaluate them well?

[StarkVegasSteve]

But we have to be selective in who to pay what.

You don?t just pay people because they ask for money. I know that?s not what you?re saying but I think you have to decide by player.

For instance if we can pay the center we got
Or Murphy, I would pay the new center if he is a shot blocker and good defensively down low.

We have to make those type decisions, right?

Seems the alternative is if someone asked for money, you pay them or you?re losing.

I disagree with that. I would try to pay what I seen them worth.

Which is what we did with Murphy. We offered him 1.5. Could we have offered 2.5? Yes. But we didn't see him as a 2.5 million type player.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Also on talent evaluation, it seems it?s more important now than 2019z

This seems like a cutting edge thought to me now.

We got a lot of player on basketball last year.

Did we evaluate them well?

I personally think we evaluated them perfectly. We knew exactly what they were going to give us.