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04-16-2025, 02:09 PM
#341
People act
Like the choice is EITHER basketball OR baseball?You can not spend on both.
Ia that true.
Cant we spend more on basketball but still be a big NIL spender in baseball?
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04-16-2025, 02:13 PM
#342

Originally Posted by
cheewgumm
People act
Like the choice is EITHER basketball OR baseball?You can not spend on both.
Ia that true.
Cant we spend more on basketball but still be a big NIL spender in baseball?
Exactly. We have certain people that fund basketball and have since the Richard Williams days. Any funding of baseball has almost nothing to do with basketball. If you're donating big money- you can earmark where you want it to go. Donating $100/month? Then no
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04-16-2025, 02:15 PM
#343

Originally Posted by
cheewgumm
People act
Like the choice is EITHER basketball OR baseball?You can not spend on both.
Ia that true.
Cant we spend more on basketball but still be a big NIL spender in baseball?
Short answer, no. Now if we have some baseball boosters that step up their giving, we could do it. The problem is that we're having to use general NIL funds for baseball. We're having to tap our usual suspects for all the sports. We need these people that care only about baseball to be the one's carrying the heavy load when it comes to baseball NIL. That or we need someone like Todd Graves, Tillman Fertitta, etc. that has a damn near unlimited cash flow and can stroke a 5 million dollar check and not miss a beat.
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04-16-2025, 02:19 PM
#344
No sport pays the bills anymore. We bring in more money in baseball than we ever have- a million per in ticket sales alone. That doesnt even get to parking and concessions revenue. Coaching salaries and such ballooning have caused that problem. I doubt football pays for itself now because its what- 10 million in coaching salaries???
What pays the bills is SEC money and advertising. So we can stop with the "baseball doesnt pay the bills". Neither do any of the other sports.
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04-16-2025, 02:22 PM
#345

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Short answer, no. Now if we have some baseball boosters that step up their giving, we could do it. The problem is that we're having to use general NIL funds for baseball. We're having to tap our usual suspects for all the sports. We need these people that care only about baseball to be the one's carrying the heavy load when it comes to baseball NIL. That or we need someone like Todd Graves, Tillman Fertitta, etc. that has a damn near unlimited cash flow and can stroke a 5 million dollar check and not miss a beat.
This is correct. Baseball guys have to do what the furniture dynasty and crew does with basketball
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04-16-2025, 06:20 PM
#346

Originally Posted by
sleepy dawg
795k was the minimum salary for a rookie in the nfl in 2024, not the average.
It's 840 for 2025
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04-16-2025, 07:06 PM
#347

Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
More than that baseball doesn't pay the bills or keep you in line to get paid with the big boys every year.
What bill does basketball pay? They can't pay for themselves. Ran a $2 MIL deficit last year. I mean if that's your argument, remove the service for the debt for stadium from baseball numbers and baseball pays for itself. Heck most years they paid for themselves at a min if not a surplus before the new stadium. Now I will say that baseball lost ticket sales last year, so we need to be careful with the program and who leads it or it may get worse.
Last edited by Really Clark?; 04-16-2025 at 07:11 PM.
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04-16-2025, 07:15 PM
#348
plus women's basketball hemorrhages money
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04-16-2025, 10:04 PM
#349

Originally Posted by
Coach34
plus women's basketball hemorrhages money
Yes it does, but Womens basketball has grown and will continue to grow and I hope we can keep up in that sport as well. I'll be the 1st to admit I rarely watched womens basketball until our two National title runs.. but I've since become a fan. 10 to 15 years ago the casual sports fan could barely name a Woman's basketball player... now their are several with household names. Alot of people still don't support it but I've grown to enjoy it.
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04-16-2025, 10:58 PM
#350
MSU football went 2-10 last season. First Question: How much did NIL subsidize the program and how much revenue did it generate for the university?
Second Question? How much subsidy would it take to get to 10 wins and how much revenue would it generate?
I'm trying to understand the bell curve. For example if the program was subsidized to the tune of $100 million, would it generate $100 million+ in revenue?
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04-17-2025, 06:37 AM
#351

Originally Posted by
GeoDawg
MSU football went 2-10 last season. First Question: How much did NIL subsidize the program and how much revenue did it generate for the university?
Second Question? How much subsidy would it take to get to 10 wins and how much revenue would it generate?
I'm trying to understand the bell curve. For example if the program was subsidized to the tune of $100 million, would it generate $100 million+ in revenue?
The way it's structured now though, the ones who subsidized wouldn't reap any of the revenue, right? Unless you could satisfaction on Saturdays instead of shame
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04-17-2025, 10:16 AM
#352
I'm strictly talking revenue to the shool, but I get your point. I just want to know the break even point (so to speak - minimum subsidy to maximum revenue).
Last edited by GeoDawg; 04-17-2025 at 10:22 AM.
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04-17-2025, 10:45 AM
#353
Welp we lost out on Tayton Conerway, he committed to Indiana. I figured we had a good shot at him, Jans is gonna have to step up before all the talent gets thin
Last edited by NCMSTFAN; 04-17-2025 at 10:48 AM.
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04-17-2025, 10:59 AM
#354
I am calling it now. Jans will get Baker -Mazara out of the portal. He is a pos but the way the portal is going, State will get a guy that I do not want.
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04-17-2025, 11:01 AM
#355

Originally Posted by
BigDawg81
I am calling it now. Jans will get Baker -Mazara out of the portal. He is a pos but the way the portal is going, State will get a guy that I do not want.
That would without a doubt be the funniest thing Jans could do. Memphis seems to be the early favorite. Have also heard OM mentioned.
We probably could get him at a bit of a discount since he should be drawing social security by the time the season rolls around***
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04-17-2025, 11:04 AM
#356

Originally Posted by
BigDawg81
I am calling it now. Jans will get Baker -Mazara out of the portal. He is a pos but the way the portal is going, State will get a guy that I do not want.
He would be a great get. I hate the dude, but he's good
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04-17-2025, 11:12 AM
#357

Originally Posted by
msstate7
He would be a great get. I hate the dude, but he's good
He's a POS, but he'd be OUR POS. I'd instantly love him.
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04-17-2025, 01:05 PM
#358

Originally Posted by
BigDawg81
I am calling it now. Jans will get Baker -Mazara out of the portal. He is a pos but the way the portal is going, State will get a guy that I do not want.
I'm not an insider like some on here are or claim to be but would we even be on his radar? We could use a guy like him even though is a loose cannon.
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04-17-2025, 01:11 PM
#359

Originally Posted by
NCMSTFAN
I'm not an insider like some on here are or claim to be but would we even be on his radar? We could use a guy like him even though is a loose cannon.
I have no clue. I think any SEC team that is interested and willing to pay his price would be on his radar.
Sounds like our next two commits are ready to pop. Achor Achor, was at K-State last year and never really clicked but was great at Samford the year before, and Amier Ali, got some great late season run and showed a lot on a terrible Arizona St team. Ceiling on Ali is sky high and if we can get Samford Achor back then we'll be rolling. We really wanted Achor last year and Frank got him to commit to K-State. Source on that is Trilly Donovan, incredible CBB source.
Edit: And just like that, Ali has committed.
Last edited by StarkVegasSteve; 04-17-2025 at 01:35 PM.
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04-17-2025, 01:47 PM
#360
StarkVegas I just saw Amier Ali committed. Was he a primary target for Jans? He has good size for a Guard at 6'8" out of Arizona State but his numbers aren't great. 5.5 ppg 3.1 rpg on 37.2%
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