When Did The Football Downfall Start

[Todd4State]

You cannot blame it all on people for not blindly throwing money at an organization run by good ole boys.
If you really want to compare - then compare their decision making from the top, and what they have put on the field to generate the excitement.
Also, they do not run down their coach on the interwebs and give him nicknames when he is winning 9 games a year. They fall in line and keep quiet for the most part , especially if winning.
They don't opine for the Billy Brewer RTDF days either. They are progressive and will support any coach that is winning, and in any form or fashion it takes to win.
We on the other hand, have boosters and fans that want it done their way.

I won't give to NIL for a bunch of 18 year olds to have money, when our administration cannot even provide a well run game day experience, make smart hiring decisions, and handle the influence of boosters that caused some of the bad decisions.

Just saying before you keep hounding NIL, there is cleanup to do on our leadership.daily fans and web sites also.

OUTSTANDING POST! You nailed it. Ole Miss has always been a lot more modern in football than MSU where we have fans that are pissed if we don't have the QB under center on every short yardage situation and they don't think it's a real offense unless there is some element of the option. Ole Miss led the SEC in passing offense this past season. They like flash and know that it sells. Even if they lose- hey! We were exciting! MSU has fans that want to win. But they also want to win a certain way.

$15 million and they STILL didn't make the playoffs.

Exactly. They essentially had the same season we had in 2018. If we had the same season we would have fans demanding that Kiffin be fired for losing to Kentucky and our fans would be talking about how we blew it ad nauseum.

Yep. Look at the common denominators.

And the boosters that put Cohen and Arnett in charge.

Let's revisit this in a couple years after Lebby gets going. And if you don't think people in Oxford are not pissed they spent $15 million to NOT make the playoff. They were told this was THE year. Folks took out loans to give to the Grove Initiative. They thought they were playing for a Natty. If the ceiling in Oxford with the best team money can buy is 9-3 there won't be a lot of people forking over retirements and life savings for that.

That's another issue with MSU is fan perception. We go to the Outback Bowl. "What a disappointing season. And the teams we beat really weren't that good." Ole Miss goes to the Outback Bowl. "Gee I wish we would have seasons like that."

Won't. Their fan base understands what it takes to win and rows in the same direction. Ours doesn't. Simple as that.

You can say, "You can't tell me how to spend my money." "A scholarship was enough back in the day" "I won't ever give to players, but I will give to the university" or the thousands of other things I've heard from Mississippi State fans. It comes down to Ole Miss wants to win. From the President down to the $5 fan. They are completely in sync. We are not. There's no consistent message.

Honestly, I think they just prioritize winning at all costs. They've been cheating since the 1940's at least and probably longer. MSU just has a bad habit about worrying about things that don't matter. And it sabotages the program. 2007 is a good example. That year we beat Alabama, Ole Miss, and won a bowl game and 8 games. And all a lot of our fans talked about is how "lucky we were". What a slap in the face to the players on that team. Just absolutely shitty. Because they didn't like Croom. Have you ever heard an Ole Miss fan talk about how when they beat an 8-4 LSU team that LSU wasn't really good that year? Do you ever hear Ole Miss fans complain about running or passing the ball too much? Do you ever hear them talk about how their win over Alabama in 2015 was a complete fluke? Even though that clearly was a fluke. And do you see their fans take the officials side when the officials screw them over? HELL NO. MSU fans do all of that.

And they do a better job of giving their fans what they want. They want powder blue helmets and uniforms- they get it. At MSU we lie about Nike owning the interlocking MSU and then give the fans a shit sandwich of a logo.