The lemonis era has to end

[KOdawg1]

Thanks for not wrecking the car and winning us a natty Lem.

Now good luck at The Citadel. We need a coach that can win in this era. You cannot.

[EdwardDrayton]

We are 1-7 this year against teams with a pulse.

That's the basis for concern. And we're seeing the same problematic issues in every phase of the game.

[schddog72]

We got swept at home against a good team, games were pretty close, so about what I expected. We'll win some like these but we aren't going to host unless the easier schedule gets it for us.

EASIER????????? How is it going to get easier when 12 of 16 SEC teams are in the top 25, AND WE AINT ONE OF THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[EdwardDrayton]

Not ready to say fire him because that will set us back for a while before the ship gets righted and it gets better. But he has some uphill work to do to not get fired.

[Coach34]

Losing record in the SEC and a Regional exit I think he is gone

Its got to play out.

[StarkVegasSteve]

We need football to show a good jump and invest there, Fingers crossed lol
Until we start hitting fans in the pocketbook for that damn outfield party, I'm not worrying much about baseball. It's about sharing sausage and getting way more than football fans get for their money. That's got to stop. Our delusional baseball fans can't even see we're barely better than USM and OM baseball is right on our heels. It's not an elite program, it's a 17ing party and more about the damn stadium.

It's the baseball grove. I guarantee I could ask 100 people at any given time what the count was and 85 of them wouldn't know what the score was, much less the count. It's always been kind of bad in regards to feeding the other team, other fans, etc. But it's gotten awful since the new stadium was built. No one even gives the other teams outfielders hell anymore because Everett or Phil Silva might yell at them for being too mean.

I hate agreeing with Cooterpoot but he's right on the money. The Grove gets way more out of their money than any other sport on campus. We're losing money because we make those damn rigs so cheap. Jack the price up to 15-20K a season, which is still a bargain and they'll start paying attention and actually giving a crap about the product on the field more than the product on their grill. I mean a regular suite, which those things are, cost 36K for a small one and 54K for the big ones. We're charging less than 5K for the lounge spots. I'd be ok with charging 30-40K for them. But Everett, Phil Silva, and Hobie would revolt that we were pricing the fans out.

[Brobi-wan]

we get it. you don't like baseball.

He?s 100% right.

[Bdawg]

It's the baseball grove. I guarantee I could ask 100 people at any given time what the count was and 85 of them wouldn't know what the score was, much less the count. It's always been kind of bad in regards to feeding the other team, other fans, etc. But it's gotten awful since the new stadium was built. No one even gives the other teams outfielders hell anymore because Everett or Phil Silva might yell at them for being too mean.

I hate agreeing with Cooterpoot but he's right on the money. The Grove gets way more out of their money than any other sport on campus. We're losing money because we make those damn rigs so cheap. Jack the price up to 15-20K a season, which is still a bargain and they'll start paying attention and actually giving a crap about the product on the field more than the product on their grill. I mean a regular suite, which those things are, cost 36K for a small one and 54K for the big ones. We're charging less than 5K for the lounge spots. I'd be ok with charging 30-40K for them. But Everett, Phil Silva, and Hobie would revolt that we were pricing the fans out.

Back in the day, Everet and Silva would have been told to go 17 themselves!! Man we used to have fun drinking beer, cooking and giving the outfielders total S*** the whole game. Those outfielders used to earn that hotdog, burger, etc. in the old stadium!

[Coursesuper]

Not ready to say fire him because that will set us back for a while before the ship gets righted and it gets better. But he has some uphill work to do to not get fired.

Replacing this staff will suck yes, its money we don't have and will be a complete renovation of the program. But at this point its about what does the athletic department want the program to be? Competing in for a top 8 seed, only trying to qualify for the post season or just letting left field loungers drink beer, cook and socialize? This still has to play out and there is a good chunk of the season to go so we shall see.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Back in the day, Everet and Silva would have been told to go 17 themselves!! Man we used to have fun drinking beer, cooking and giving the outfielders total S*** the whole game. Those outfielders used to earn that hotdog, burger, etc. in the old stadium!

When the old stadium was torn down, the old ways died with it. I remember we used to give the left fielders HELL. Now, we might also pass them a beer after the game but during the game, there were some colorful adjectives thrown their way.

Now you can't be mean because their parents might be out there. Or you can't say things cause kids are out there. Like that stuff happened before and no one cared. You know I always thought it was crazy that people were so sad we were redoing the stadium, but maybe they saw what I didn't see at the time. Maybe they saw the old ways dying a slow painful death.

[Cooterpoot]

EASIER????????? How is it going to get easier when 12 of 16 SEC teams are in the top 25, AND WE AINT ONE OF THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Our schedule in conference was rated one of the easiest in the SEC. There's no "easy" but it's a beneficial set up for us.
There was a time when I'd do anything to watch State baseball but that's over. We've catered to a certain group of folks who only care about the shit in that outfield and bragging about the stadium. They'd rather read articles about the cooking setups and feeding visiting fans and they hate the average Stare fan and don't give a shit about winning.

[Coursesuper]

When the old stadium was torn down, the old ways died with it. I remember we used to give the left fielders HELL. Now, we might also pass them a beer after the game but during the game, there were some colorful adjectives thrown their way.

Now you can't be mean because their parents might be out there. Or you can't say things cause kids are out there. Like that stuff happened before and no one cared. You know I always thought it was crazy that people were so sad we were redoing the stadium, but maybe they saw what I didn't see at the time. Maybe they saw the old ways dying a slow painful death.

It was a unique experience found only in the LFL. Now it is something that anyone else in the country, that is willing, can and will duplicate.

[StarkVegasSteve]

It was a unique experience found only in the LFL. Now it is something that anyone else in the country, that is willing, can and will duplicate.

Correct. If you don't think this is about to be replicated at Tennessee, Arkansas, Ole Miss, etc when they have the money then you're kidding yourself. It's just a matter of time.

[HoopsDawg]

He?s 100% right.

No, he's not. There is zero correlation between football and baseball. Wanting the outfield people to have to pay more money to the university is quite a take.

And complaining about showing hospitality to visiting fans and teams is a stupid take. We used to feed regional teams in the 80s so nothing has changed there.

[msstate7]

No, he's not. There is zero correlation between football and baseball. Wanting the outfield people to have to pay more money to the university is quite a take.

And complaining about showing hospitality to visiting fans and teams is a stupid take. We used to feed regional teams in the 80s so nothing has changed there.

Yeah, we aren't good in baseball anymore, and it has nothing to do with our fans.

[StarkVegasSteve]

And the really bad thing about the LFL stuff is that people are calling them out for it and they just double down on it. Like just admit that we don't need to be feeding the opposing team a 4 course meal after they kick our ass and that it's a bad look. Maybe admit that they don't need to trip over themselves and push Mississippi State fans out of the way so they can be the first person to give a Texas fan a 12 oz filet and a case of Michelob.

I can't really pinpoint when the going out of our way so we could get noticed on Twitter crap started but I think it was around the 2019 postseason when the CMU baseball team came out to the outfield and then the Supers that year when David Esquer's wife wrote that article talking about how nice our fans were. It seems like ever since then we've had fans that try to fall all over themselves to see who can get noticed on Twitter for being the nicest person. I won't call them out by name, but you can get on Twitter and easily figure out who I'm talking about. And it's not just Everett and Silva. There's another big one that I got into an argument with yesterday about it. I told him it looked silly as shit that we were feeding the other team and their fans after they beat us. You can't make them see it though at this point. They're too far down the rabbit hole of trying to see who's going to mention them in a tweet.

[StarkVegasSteve]

No, he's not. There is zero correlation between football and baseball. Wanting the outfield people to have to pay more money to the university is quite a take.

And complaining about showing hospitality to visiting fans and teams is a stupid take. We used to feed regional teams in the 80s so nothing has changed there.

After all the games were over and we kicked their ass. We didn't feed them after EVERY GAME when they beat us. And it's not a bad take. Teams need to fear the trip to Dudy Noble, not fast for it.

[BankerDog]

It's the baseball grove. I guarantee I could ask 100 people at any given time what the count was and 85 of them wouldn't know what the score was, much less the count. It's always been kind of bad in regards to feeding the other team, other fans, etc. But it's gotten awful since the new stadium was built. No one even gives the other teams outfielders hell anymore because Everett or Phil Silva might yell at them for being too mean.

I hate agreeing with Cooterpoot but he's right on the money. The Grove gets way more out of their money than any other sport on campus. We're losing money because we make those damn rigs so cheap. Jack the price up to 15-20K a season, which is still a bargain and they'll start paying attention and actually giving a crap about the product on the field more than the product on their grill. I mean a regular suite, which those things are, cost 36K for a small one and 54K for the big ones. We're charging less than 5K for the lounge spots. I'd be ok with charging 30-40K for them. But Everett, Phil Silva, and Hobie would revolt that we were pricing the fans out.

It?s this simple: athletic budget shows $2.5MM in revenue for baseball however we spend $5.5MM on it. Thus we have a loss of $3MM.

We claim we are elite program, we have elite college baseball fans. It?s about time that the coaches stop coaching and running this program like a Double A team and start running it like an elite program. And until that time comes, we need to shift about $3MM of that $5MM in expenses to football and basketball. They pay the bills. End of story.

[BankerDog]

After all the games were over and we kicked their ass. We didn't feed them after EVERY GAME when they beat us. And it's not a bad take. Teams need to fear the trip to Dudy Noble, not fast for it.

Would rather be nice and lose than win and be proud. I have seen it all now

[Coursesuper]

Yeah, we aren't good in baseball anymore, and it has nothing to do with our fans.

That's not entirely true, it's just not in the way you think when it come to our "fans".