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02-25-2025, 11:57 PM
#101

Originally Posted by
CarolinaDawgs
I 100% remember how bad we got beat in that game. In fact that year i went to the SC v State womens game in Columbia where Vivians got fouled the final possession and nobody called it. Dont try that with me.
You were the one bringing up points and OM hypotheticals. Just used your logic against ya a bit. It?s ok happens to the best of em.
I thought we lost to Notre dame in the national championship??
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02-25-2025, 11:58 PM
#102

Originally Posted by
Tater
I mean by algorithms we should have lost to Aggy but beat kenneth pomegranate by ~20. This week we lost to Kendrick Pompeii by ~20.
But yea, you got me in logic bro. Every loss we have is horrendous and every win we have isn't that good because we beat that team. Great logic.
We are fighting like you think I want us to lose or do bad. I?m just sick of getting dog walked. The 20ish team in the nation should have some ability to be competitive in a Basketball game against anybody. I?m not mad in particular about anything, but if you can?t see the trend that we get skull bumped anytime we play one of these teams I can?t help you.
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02-26-2025, 12:01 AM
#103

Originally Posted by
preachermatt83
I thought we lost to Notre dame in the national championship??
Unfortunately brother we lost 2 in a row
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02-26-2025, 12:06 AM
#104

Originally Posted by
CarolinaDawgs
We are fighting like you think I want us to lose or do bad. I?m just sick of getting dog walked. The 20ish team in the nation should have some ability to be competitive in a Basketball game against anybody. I?m not mad in particular about anything, but if you can?t see the trend that we get skull bumped anytime we play one of these teams I can?t help you.
I'm more just angry at everything that I can see biased officiating for what it is thanks to having it explained perfectly by Donaghy. I wish I could go back and never listen to him explain it.
Basketball just isn't fun when you see that shit happening. And it came right out the gate.
"Once the game starts, it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, July 10th, 2010
"No one ever said it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, June 12th, 2011
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02-26-2025, 07:00 AM
#105

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Making the tourney is pretty tough. We've only made it 12 times since integration. 2 of those are by Jans. It will be 13 and 3 this season.
Do you think we should fire Jans?
Again, big whoop if that?s the goal is just to make it. I?m not gonna high five for making the tournament knowing we will crap the bed and not even be a factor in it.
Did I say we should fire Jans? Or even mention his name.
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02-26-2025, 07:18 AM
#106

Originally Posted by
StateDawg44
Again, big whoop if that?s the goal is just to make it. I?m not gonna high five for making the tournament knowing we will crap the bed and not even be a factor in it.
Did I say we should fire Jans? Or even mention his name.
If you want us competing for a natty in MBK, you probably need to up your NIL bc our talent level isn't close to the elite in the sec
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02-26-2025, 07:20 AM
#107

Originally Posted by
CarolinaDawgs
I expect to beat the teams in the right column. (OM wins are great but my hate for them expects wins)
When do we start not only expecting a win in the left column, but being competitive in those games?
OM is a good team. Beating them was hardly a given. Hell, they won at bama. We literally beat a top 10 team last week. Our home game vs bama came down to a chances to tie/take lead
ETA... Georgia has beat St. John's, Kentucky, and Florida at home. Their only home losses are Auburn, mizzou, and us. That was a good win
Last edited by msstate7; 02-26-2025 at 07:27 AM.
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02-26-2025, 11:52 AM
#108

Originally Posted by
StateDawg44
Again, big whoop if that?s the goal is just to make it. I?m not gonna high five for making the tournament knowing we will crap the bed and not even be a factor in it.
Did I say we should fire Jans? Or even mention his name.
Well...Bless your pea picking heart.
"Live every day like it was your last one.....And one day you're gonna be right"..Willie Nelson
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02-26-2025, 02:11 PM
#109

Originally Posted by
StateDawg44
Again, big whoop if that?s the goal is just to make it. I?m not gonna high five for making the tournament knowing we will crap the bed and not even be a factor in it.
Did I say we should fire Jans? Or even mention his name.
Some of y'all need to stop overinflating our status as a program. We've made it out of the first weekend THREE TIMES EVER. THREE. And one of those was when the field was only 25 teams. Oklahoma, who I don't think anyone would consider a basketball power, has done the same thing 11 times (5 times in the last 24 years). We've only made the tournament 12 times(since the field expanded past 25 teams), 13 after this year. So Chris Jans, who's been here for 3 years will account for almost 25% of our tournament appearances in school history.
So yes, we should set a goal to make the tournament. We're not some blue blood that should be expecting the S16 every year. If you get there, awesome. But don't crap on making the tournament because you overinflate a bunch of meaningless division championships in the mid 00s.
Also just for reference since some think we're a "basketball power". We have 6 SEC Regular season championships since 1960. LSU has 8. I don't think anyone thinks LSU is a basketball power.
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02-26-2025, 02:19 PM
#110
Also some food for thought for the Jans is mid crowd.
Kelvin Sampson Years 1-3 at Houston: 56-40(.583 winning percentage)
Kelvin Sampson Since at Houston: 232-43(.844 winning percentage)
Jans Years 1-3 at State: 61-36 (.629 winning percentage)
Jans will be just fine if he stays here. We need to be figuring out how to keep him, not constantly running him down. We were lucky as hell to hire him.
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02-26-2025, 03:31 PM
#111

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Some of y'all need to stop overinflating our status as a program. We've made it out of the first weekend THREE TIMES EVER. THREE. And one of those was when the field was only 25 teams. Oklahoma, who I don't think anyone would consider a basketball power, has done the same thing 11 times (5 times in the last 24 years). We've only made the tournament 12 times(since the field expanded past 25 teams), 13 after this year. So Chris Jans, who's been here for 3 years will account for almost 25% of our tournament appearances in school history.
So yes, we should set a goal to make the tournament. We're not some blue blood that should be expecting the S16 every year. If you get there, awesome. But don't crap on making the tournament because you overinflate a bunch of meaningless division championships in the mid 00s.
Also just for reference since some think we're a "basketball power". We have 6 SEC Regular season championships since 1960. LSU has 8. I don't think anyone thinks LSU is a basketball power.
Trust me, my expectation of the status of the program isn't overinflated. Quite the opposite. I also never even hinted that we should be waltzing through the SEC this year or any other year.
I never expected to win yesterday. They did precisely what I did expect.
I think Jans is a good coach who struggles with offense. Something that he will have to fix to be successful no matter where he is at.
My expectations are to be let down by this basketball team. Plain and simple.
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02-26-2025, 03:36 PM
#112

Originally Posted by
AROB44
Well...Bless your pea picking heart.
Celebrating finishing the year with a shot at not even being ranked in the top 30. Woo!
I guess it's better than Rick Ray
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02-26-2025, 03:43 PM
#113

Originally Posted by
StateDawg44
Trust me, my expectation of the status of the program isn't overinflated. Quite the opposite. I also never even hinted that we should be waltzing through the SEC this year or any other year.
I never expected to win yesterday. They did precisely what I did expect.
I think Jans is a good coach who struggles with offense. Something that he will have to fix to be successful no matter where he is at.
My expectations are to be let down by this basketball team. Plain and simple.
That's just depressing man. Like enjoy being in the tournament. Whether we're knocked out by 1 PM on Thursday or not, we got there. We didn't from 2010-2019. Or from 1964-1991. And again from 97-02. Enjoy actually having a team to root for when that bracket is revealed on Selection Sunday.
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02-26-2025, 03:46 PM
#114

Originally Posted by
StateDawg44
Celebrating finishing the year with a shot at not even being ranked in the top 30. Woo!
I guess it's better than Rick Ray
And Joe Dan Gold, Kermit Davis Sr., Ron Greene, Jim Hatfield, Bob Boyd, all but two years of Richard Williams, all but one year of Rick Stansbury, Rick Ray, and Ben Howland. So basically better than every coach of the modern era and the same as the 3 who made the NCAAT.
But besides that, dead same.
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02-26-2025, 10:59 PM
#115

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
That's just depressing man. Like enjoy being in the tournament. Whether we're knocked out by 1 PM on Thursday or not, we got there. We didn't from 2010-2019. Or from 1964-1991. And again from 97-02. Enjoy actually having a team to root for when that bracket is revealed on Selection Sunday.
There's 351 losers in D1 basketball this year.
There's 1 winner.
You have to have an outrageous sense of self to be disappointed if we aren't that one. Enjoy the ****ing ride. We're good. And we've got a ticket. All it takes is getting hot for 6 games. We know that our BEST ball for six games is a championship contender.
Haven't been able to say that in 20 years.
And half the ****in idiots here are gonna be disappointed if we get bounced in the second round. Learn to enjoy the ride.
If you need to win the natty - play a video game.
"Once the game starts, it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, July 10th, 2010
"No one ever said it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, June 12th, 2011
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02-27-2025, 07:02 AM
#116

Originally Posted by
Tater
There's 351 losers in D1 basketball this year.
There's 1 winner.
You have to have an outrageous sense of self to be disappointed if we aren't that one. Enjoy the ****ing ride. We're good. And we've got a ticket. All it takes is getting hot for 6 games. We know that our BEST ball for six games is a championship contender.
Haven't been able to say that in 20 years.
And half the ****in idiots here are gonna be disappointed if we get bounced in the second round. Learn to enjoy the ride.
If you need to win the natty - play a video game.
No one said all or nothing. We will see how they do but this team isn?t fun to watch at all.
Sweet 16, Elite 8 or better are more than enough to cheer about. 54th meh.
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02-27-2025, 07:29 AM
#117
get Jans a team with bruce pearl talent and the results will indicate that we currently need better players. Jans ain't the issue
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02-27-2025, 11:14 AM
#118

Originally Posted by
StateDawg44
No one said all or nothing. We will see how they do but this team isn?t fun to watch at all.
Sweet 16, Elite 8 or better are more than enough to cheer about. 54th meh.
Then don't watch.....
"Live every day like it was your last one.....And one day you're gonna be right"..Willie Nelson
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02-27-2025, 11:22 AM
#119

Originally Posted by
AROB44
Then don't watch.....
I love when people use that excuse. I mean there is a pretty easy solution to the issue, just do not watch. Yet, those same people will be complaining the very next game.
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02-27-2025, 12:05 PM
#120

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
I love when people use that excuse. I mean there is a pretty easy solution to the issue, just do not watch. Yet, those same people will be complaining the very next game.
Absolutely nothing wrong with us fans expressing dissatisfaction and disappointment with the team's performance, especially when it falls short of even midline potential. And we'll be right back watching the next game hoping they rebound. I'm sure the players would be the first to admit that was an embarrassing performance.
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