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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    You're right. They didn't. And as I've now said 3 times, I wasn't trying to compare HRs. They crushed theirs. What I was saying was, despite the fact that we left the town of Crawford on base(and Hines left the town of Stewart by himself) we were warmer air away from all of it being a moot point and winning.

    Just trying to inject a little bit of balance instead of just consistent negativity win or loss.
    As you've said, we were also just one measly base hit away. It's obvious many or our players struggle to just hit for contact. That is why there's reason to be pissed.

    It's the same crap as last year. Whether it's March or the end of April. Can't even advance loaded bases. Some atrocious critical at bats yesterday. From veterans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StateDawg44 View Post
    As you've said, we were also just one measly base hit away. It's obvious many or our players struggle to just hit for contact. That is why there's reason to be pissed.

    It's the same crap as last year. Whether it's March or the end of April. Can't even advance loaded bases. Some atrocious critical at bats yesterday. From veterans.
    Now we agree there. Hines has to better. It's disconcerting to say the least that he's the same hitter now as he was in February of his freshman year. And that's not on Jake. At a certain point, the kid has to want to learn to alter his approach. Hines doesn't apparently. So it's time to sit him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Look we shouldn't have been in the situation we were in last night no doubt, we left 14 on base and Hines left 9 by himself. Saying that, if that game is played in April, Chance ties it up with a HR in the 9th and Cupp walks it off. Just needed to be a little warmer for those two to carry.

    It sucks losing, but let's figure out these issues in February and get them corrected instead of having them pop up in April because we were playing Northsoutheastwestern Technical School of The Mines in February.
    The thing is we played Manhattan and Missouri State while good was still a team we beat easily. Get guys like Schnoor work against teams like that and use the big guns against USM and Troy who are both top 25 teams. Beating USM on the road and Troy would have helped our resume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Pitching is deep but the better talent is young and guys just finding. We failed to sign great pitching for a couple years and so this is what we get. He's got no choice but to get guys work to get experience.
    He didn't have to pitch Dotson twice against Missouri State. And he had ample opportunities to get pitchers an inning or so against Manhattan.

    The guys with talent have been performing for the most part this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Now we agree there. Hines has to better. It's disconcerting to say the least that he's the same hitter now as he was in February of his freshman year. And that's not on Jake. At a certain point, the kid has to want to learn to alter his approach. Hines doesn't apparently. So it's time to sit him.
    The kid is the same player he has been since he stepped on campus at the plate. Better defender as a Sr but is right now a big hole in the batting order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coursesuper View Post
    The kid is the same player he has been since he stepped on campus at the plate. Better defender as a Sr but is right now a big hole in the batting order.
    I disagree- I think he is worse. He basically hit .300 his 1st 2 years as a DH with 20 HR's per. Now? He is me at the SEC level in 1990
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    I disagree- I think he is worse. He basically hit .300 his 1st 2 years as a DH with 20 HR's per. Now? He is me at the SEC level in 1990
    Can?t argue that point, will add though that now there is enough book on him that he is definitely pitched to with purpose. He is still trying to pull absolutely everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    You're right. They didn't. And as I've now said 3 times, I wasn't trying to compare HRs. They crushed theirs. What I was saying was, despite the fact that we left the town of Crawford on base(and Hines left the town of Stewart by himself) we were warmer air away from all of it being a moot point and winning.

    Just trying to inject a little bit of balance instead of just consistent negativity win or loss.
    Eight games in we should not be worried about any of this. We simply did not deliver at the plate with numerous RISP. It's a single game and it's early. Too early to tinker with players sitting or not. Troy delivered just enough and we did not. Frustrating of course but we're the ones that left the W on the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    I disagree- I think he is worse. He basically hit .300 his 1st 2 years as a DH with 20 HR's per. Now? He is me at the SEC level in 1990
    The difference is this year we can and will bench him if he keeps it up. Lemonis basically alluded to this in his interview last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton View Post
    Eight games in we should not be worried about any of this. We simply did not deliver at the plate with numerous RISP. It's a single game and it's early. Too early to tinker with players sitting or not. Troy delivered just enough and we did not. Frustrating of course but we're the ones that left the W on the field.
    I think Lemonis's concern is guys doing the same things at the plate they did last year- ahem Hunter Hines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton View Post
    Eight games in we should not be worried about any of this.
    Do you hear yourself? "Eight games in"?????? We have 15 guys from other teams last year we are counting on to play big roles. 8 games is in no way enough time to know shit. Its going to take at least 20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Do you hear yourself? "Eight games in"?????? We have 15 guys from other teams last year we are counting on to play big roles. 8 games is in no way enough time to know shit. Its going to take at least 20
    Uh, thanks for reiterating my point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton View Post
    Uh, thanks for reiterating my point?
    oh- I misread. We agree. Please use "only 8 games" next time to eliminate confusion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Meets with media
    Meets with school officials
    Meets with coaches about each player and their plans for each player.
    Plans practice each day
    Plans Gameday schedule
    Relays travel schedule to team verbally and document-wise
    Talks with players individually
    Gives hitting advice
    Heads up Team Accountability
    Gives fielding advice
    Yells when needed at something breaking down
    Locates bucket

    I'm sure there is a bunch more- but thats the nuts and bolts of things
    You forgot....he hands out a t shirt after games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    I disagree- I think he is worse. He basically hit .300 his 1st 2 years as a DH with 20 HR's per. Now? He is me at the SEC level in 1990
    Yeah, I don?t know what the deal is. Thought he was better as well.

    I have been told he practices a lot on his own. Felt bad for him last year, but he has to find it now.

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    If a new coach with no loyalties, recruiting promises, history, or ties came in to direct the hitting because the LA Dodgers steal Gotro and Lemonis from MSU.

    (1) 2B- Frei - Switch (Buckner is a good player too)
    (2) LF -Downs - Right (Up in the order until he stops hitting)
    (3) RF-Stevens - Left
    (4) 1B-Sullivan - Right
    (5) DH- Stallman - Left / Hines - Left (Hines is probably good PH versus Right Hand Power Arms)
    (6) CF- Chance - Right
    (7) 3B - Reece - Left (Instructed to put the barrel for gappers and not try be a 20 HR guy, he is K'ing +50% his rate for Houston, move up when he gets hot)
    (8) SS- Cupp - Right (A new coach would think Cupp is a hitter these days)
    (9) C- Highfill - Right / Powell - Right / Owen - Right (Until Highfill becomes Johnny Bench)

    The top-end portal catchers like Jimmy Keenan and Luke Gaffney and Luis Hernandez are also not hitting. So, no obvious solution was available to snag, even with maxed out NIL dollars.

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