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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Here is all you need to know:
Lebby had a deal with Arnold to come to State for 750K. He signed the paper. We thought we were good.
Auburn jumped in and offered 2MM. Arnold said **** you and your paper. I'm going to Auburn.
Then LSU took our young QB for about the same price we offered Arnold
This is our future in the SEC
I will take Kromenhoek over MVB. We came out better. In the old days we would have to sit around and wait three seasons for our 5'10" QB to figure out how to read a defense.
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We’ll have to disagree. I think we downgraded. MVB looked better as a true freshman and the stats back it up in a better conference
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
We’ll have to disagree. I think we downgraded. MVB looked better as a true freshman and the stats back it up in a better conference
MVB has a much larger sample size and Lebby is a much better OC than FSU's OC Alex Atkins. Kromenhoeck is 6'4" and has a stronger arm plus he had over 100 yards rushing in a FSU offense that doesn't really ask the QB to run much. MVB actually had negative rushing yards but the thing that bothered me the most about MVB was his awareness at times. He would take delay of game penalties and would start sliding way short of the first down marker. I know he is a freshman but those are things that even an average high school QB should know. MVB was also 5'10" which is not much taller than Tyson Lee was and it definitely was a factor in getting passes knocked down. Not to mention he also struggled with some shorter passes.
Both are raw but we're getting a lot more upside with Kroemenhoek and a lot more physical talent and to your point we may have lost MVB but the reality is we replaced him with someone that is at worst comparable.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
I will take Kromenhoek over MVB. We came out better. In the old days we would have to sit around and wait three seasons for our 5'10" QB to figure out how to read a defense.
Kromenhoeck was terrible the 1 game I watched
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Originally Posted by
MoreCowbell
Kromenhoeck was terrible the 1 game I watched
Well...that should settle it. He should never have been recruited. ***********
"Live every day like it was your last one.....And one day you're gonna be right"..Willie Nelson
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Originally Posted by
DEDawg
Now do ?How is NIL benefiting college sports? and you would get all the opposite. Point being, ask I biased question get a biased answer
Even putting in a non-biased question "Is NIL good or bad for college sports" the only positive answer it lists is for the "student athlete". They do not mention any benefit for the university, students, fans or for the sport itself.
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Well all over the country, NIL and the portal are closing the gap between the Power Conference have-nots and the Elites. It can be us too, and maybe it will be going forward.
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Originally Posted by
War Machine Dawg
Lmao, parity? Not even close. It's concentrated the talent into a very small number of traditional, rich powerhouse schools. ND just happens to be one of them. And this playoff is proving that 8 was always the right number. 12 is too many.
This is true. To everyone else it an illusion. Most bowl game suck due to the portal and the rich are getting richer.
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The NIL is not the main reason for the Chaos is Football, right now that is. Players have been getting paid 6 figures to 7 figures for years with their "advisors" or preachers acting on their nephews behalf. Think Reggie Bush and yes Cam Newton, Marcus Dupree hell go back to John David Crow, with a shout out to "The Junction Boys". The main problem is the transfer portal and until the NCAA puts a lid on that pandora box the game is gonna suck. Also The current NIL format is not sustainable for most of the schools. Now that it's out from beneath the table there are now bidding wars for top talent and schools with stupid rich Alumni and most schools are just not going to be able to compete with The Texas big 2 Notre Dame and hell if Stanford ever got Smart big tech schools. Most Alumni who had to scratch and claw to put themselves through college working minimum wage jobs are just going to say screw it and find other things to entertain themselves on Saturday/ Now this is just for football. I think MBBs are different due to the size of the teams.
Last edited by parabrave; 01-04-2025 at 05:05 PM.
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Originally Posted by
AROB44
Well...that should settle it. He should never have been recruited. ***********
Don?t be a drama queen
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
Well all over the country, NIL and the portal are closing the gap between the Power Conference have-nots and the Elites. It can be us too, and maybe it will be going forward.
So going forward we can expect a $20M surplus to, at best, break even for 6-8 wins a year? Yay!!
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The coach may be better but their schedule was Ole Miss Soft
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
Well all over the country, NIL and the portal are closing the gap between the Power Conference have-nots and the Elites. It can be us too, and maybe it will be going forward.
Where? Big Ten was Oregon, Ohio St, and Penn St as usual. Indiana had a dream schedule to avoid the top teams except Ohio ST
SEC? Texas, Georgia, and Tenn, followed by Bama.
ACC? Clemson. SMU won 11 the year before they joined the ACC
Big 12? All the big dawgs left so its a whole conference of have nots battling now
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Where? Big Ten was Oregon, Ohio St, and Penn St as usual. Indiana had a dream schedule to avoid the top teams except Ohio ST
SEC? Texas, Georgia, and Tenn, followed by Bama.
ACC? Clemson. SMU won 11 the year before they joined the ACC
Big 12? All the big dawgs left so its a whole conference of have nots battling now
Purposely leaving out 2 teams that completely flipped the roster in 1 season and made the playoffs is an interesting miss. Vandy seemed to have luck closing the gap this year, think I recall they beat a team they traditionally do not.
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Originally Posted by
DEDawg
Purposely leaving out 2 teams that completely flipped the roster in 1 season and made the playoffs is an interesting miss. Vandy seemed to have luck closing the gap this year, think I recall they beat a team they traditionally do not.
A) Those two teams would have been 6-6 in the SEC
B) Vandy in all their glory went 6-6.....which is what we are hoping for with our 12-13MM dollars we are spending
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ASU caught fire with a dam good Norm Bulaich and a coach who will be transferring to BAMA or LSU after next year. BTW I can't wait to see Sketterbro in the NFL.
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Indiana's Big Ten Wins:
4-8 UCLA
4-8 Northwestern
1-11 Purdue
7-6 Nebraska
8-5 Michigan
6-7 Washington
5-7 Michigan St
Indiana had a dream schedule and took advantage
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Indiana's Big Ten Wins:
4-8 UCLA
4-8 Northwestern
1-11 Purdue
7-6 Nebraska
8-5 Michigan
6-7 Washington
5-7 Michigan St
Indiana had a dream schedule and took advantage
They were 3-9 last season, so even with a soft schedule, it was a big time turn around
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Originally Posted by
parabrave
ASU caught fire with a dam good Norm Bulaich and a coach who will be transferring to BAMA or LSU after next year. BTW I can't wait to see Sketterbro in the NFL.
Since we talking about a white rb, I say he ends up more Jacob Hester than Alstott
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
They were 3-9 last season, so even with a soft schedule, it was a big time turn around
In fact, they finished with a winning record only twice in last 16 seasons, but then the portal and NIL sent to the playoffs. "Weak schedule" (still in the toughest FBS conference) or not, I think we can all agree that if the portal and NIL had never been a thing, they wouldn't have been anywhere close to the playoffs.
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