NIL is creating parity

[Quaoarsking]

Because our fan and alumni base is poor and in the poorest state

There are plenty of schools in "poor states" whose fanbases have embraced the portal and have found success with it. Why can't we? Our alumni base is probably on the poorer half of FBS alumni base wealth rankings, but it's not DFL.

Dude we have no prestige

We have "low" prestige sure (as I said in the post you replied to), but there are dozens of FBS schools with less prestige than us. We were the 20th best program in the country between 2009 and 2022, and most of that was without being able to bring in high quality transfers. We could be that level of program again with the right coach.

[Coach34]

But those schools aren’t playing in the SEC

We lost our top QB target in the portal after we had him locked up for 750K. Auburn offered 2MM and he said sorry Lebbo- the money is too much. Then we let the bright spot on offense go to LSU. Now we have plastic man and a guy Fla State didn’t want anymore.

Football at State is done under the current conditions.

[Pancho]

Norvell is letting Gus search for a system QB for his offense.

[Quaoarsking]

But those schools aren’t playing in the SEC

Yeah, some of them are playing in a tougher conference!

[msu15]

But those schools aren’t playing in the SEC

We lost our top QB target in the portal after we had him locked up for 750K. Auburn offered 2MM and he said sorry Lebbo- the money is too much. Then we let the bright spot on offense go to LSU. Now we have plastic man and a guy Fla State didn’t want anymore.

Football at State is done under the current conditions.

You need to change your name to TittyBaby34

[War Machine Dawg]

Lmao, parity? Not even close. It's concentrated the talent into a very small number of traditional, rich powerhouse schools. ND just happens to be one of them. And this playoff is proving that 8 was always the right number. 12 is too many.

[Extendedcab]

Some of you NIL guys are talking out both sides of your mouth. NIL is great it brings parity and NIL is horrible as the Blue Bloods will eat MSU's and all smaller schools lunch with money being offered to "Student Athletes".

I am listing below what the internet thinks of NIL - and it is not good!

Overview:

The once cherished notion of college athletics as a pure, amateur pursuit is rapidly eroding under the weight of Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL), where the allure of lucrative deals is transforming the landscape from a place of school pride to a transactional marketplace, effectively "destroying" college sports by prioritizing individual profit over the traditional team-first mentality, disproportionately benefiting top programs and leaving smaller schools struggling to compete, all while blurring the lines between collegiate and professional athletics.

Key points highlighting NIL's destructive impact

Recruiting Chaos:
Top recruits are now heavily swayed by the potential NIL earnings offered by schools, leading to a "bidding war" where the highest paying institutions attract the best talent, regardless of academic fit or program history, creating an uneven playing field.

Powerhouse Domination:
Big-name schools with large alumni networks and established brand power are easily able to secure lucrative NIL deals for their athletes, further widening the gap between them and smaller programs who struggle to compete financially.

Loss of Amateurism:
The core concept of college athletics, where student-athletes play for the love of the game and the pride of their school, is being undermined as the focus shifts towards personal financial gain through NIL deals.

Blurring the lines between college and professional athletics:
NIL deals allow student athletes to make money off their personal brand, which some say creates an unstable atmosphere where athletes are constantly being recruited with promises of pay.

Transfer Portal Exploitation:
NIL further fuels the transfer portal, allowing athletes to easily jump between schools based on the promise of bigger NIL opportunities, disrupting team chemistry and stability.


Ethical Concerns:
Concerns arise about potential exploitation of athletes, particularly in high-profile sports, where the pressure to secure lucrative deals could lead to poor decision-making or prioritizing commercial opportunities over academic pursuits.

Disrupting team cohesion:
NIL deals can create disparities in earning potential between teammates, which can lead to jealousy and resentment.

Taking talent away from smaller schools:
Larger programs can offer players more money and a better chance at professional sports, which can lead to players leaving smaller schools.

Creating a class system:
NIL deals can create a class system within college athletics, where some players earn a significant amount of money while others earn little or nothing.

Undermining the authenticity of college sports:
Some say that NIL has made playing for your brand more important than playing for your school, which can make college sports less authentic for students and fans.

Lack of legal protection:
Some say that there is a lack of legal protection in verbal and written NIL agreements.


In Summary:

"Once, the roar of the crowd at a college football game was a celebration of school spirit, where fans rallied behind their team, regardless of the players' personal wealth. Now, the buzz is often about which star athlete just signed a million-dollar NIL deal with a local business, and which school is offering the most lucrative package to the next big recruit. The allure of big money has turned the college sports landscape into a free-for-all, where the traditional values of teamwork and amateurism are increasingly sacrificed at the altar of personal profit."

So why are you pro-NIL guys for NIL? There is no where for this to go except in the toilet! The genie is out of the bottle and I do not think there is a way to put the genie back in the bottle without destroying the whole college sport systems and starting over! Today, it is a total unadulterated mess!!

[GeoDawg]

NIL/Transfer portal is a rather simple equation for me. It's like a company asking me to contribute to a fund so that they can use the money to go out and hire away their competitor's best employees. The company's pitch is that they will be able to produce a better product.

Why would I do that? Produce the product at your own cost and I will decide whether why I want to buy it or not. Period.

Tell me where I'm wrong.

[DEDawg]

Some of you NIL guys are talking out both sides of your mouth. NIL is great it brings parity and NIL is horrible as the Blue Bloods will eat MSU's and all smaller schools lunch with money being offered to "Student Athletes".

I am listing below what the internet thinks of NIL - and it is not good!

Overview:

The once cherished notion of college athletics as a pure, amateur pursuit is rapidly eroding under the weight of Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL), where the allure of lucrative deals is transforming the landscape from a place of school pride to a transactional marketplace, effectively "destroying" college sports by prioritizing individual profit over the traditional team-first mentality, disproportionately benefiting top programs and leaving smaller schools struggling to compete, all while blurring the lines between collegiate and professional athletics.

Key points highlighting NIL's destructive impact

Recruiting Chaos:
Top recruits are now heavily swayed by the potential NIL earnings offered by schools, leading to a "bidding war" where the highest paying institutions attract the best talent, regardless of academic fit or program history, creating an uneven playing field.

Powerhouse Domination:
Big-name schools with large alumni networks and established brand power are easily able to secure lucrative NIL deals for their athletes, further widening the gap between them and smaller programs who struggle to compete financially.

Loss of Amateurism:
The core concept of college athletics, where student-athletes play for the love of the game and the pride of their school, is being undermined as the focus shifts towards personal financial gain through NIL deals.

Blurring the lines between college and professional athletics:
NIL deals allow student athletes to make money off their personal brand, which some say creates an unstable atmosphere where athletes are constantly being recruited with promises of pay.

Transfer Portal Exploitation:
NIL further fuels the transfer portal, allowing athletes to easily jump between schools based on the promise of bigger NIL opportunities, disrupting team chemistry and stability.


Ethical Concerns:
Concerns arise about potential exploitation of athletes, particularly in high-profile sports, where the pressure to secure lucrative deals could lead to poor decision-making or prioritizing commercial opportunities over academic pursuits.

Disrupting team cohesion:
NIL deals can create disparities in earning potential between teammates, which can lead to jealousy and resentment.

Taking talent away from smaller schools:
Larger programs can offer players more money and a better chance at professional sports, which can lead to players leaving smaller schools.

Creating a class system:
NIL deals can create a class system within college athletics, where some players earn a significant amount of money while others earn little or nothing.

Undermining the authenticity of college sports:
Some say that NIL has made playing for your brand more important than playing for your school, which can make college sports less authentic for students and fans.

Lack of legal protection:
Some say that there is a lack of legal protection in verbal and written NIL agreements.


In Summary:

"Once, the roar of the crowd at a college football game was a celebration of school spirit, where fans rallied behind their team, regardless of the players' personal wealth. Now, the buzz is often about which star athlete just signed a million-dollar NIL deal with a local business, and which school is offering the most lucrative package to the next big recruit. The allure of big money has turned the college sports landscape into a free-for-all, where the traditional values of teamwork and amateurism are increasingly sacrificed at the altar of personal profit."

So why are you pro-NIL guys for NIL? There is no where for this to go except in the toilet! The genie is out of the bottle and I do not think there is a way to put the genie back in the bottle without destroying the whole college sport systems and starting over! Today, it is a total unadulterated mess!!

Well thank god you pasted a chatGPT output where you didn?t even show the input you fed it. now we know the truth

[DEDawg]

NIL/Transfer portal is a rather simple equation for me. It's like a company asking me to contribute to a fund so that they can use the money to go out and hire away their competitor's best employees. The company's pitch is that they will be able to produce a better product.

Why would I do that? Produce the product at your own cost and I will decide whether why I want to buy it or not. Period.

Tell me where I'm wrong.

Because your concept of a company is incorrect. Companies raise funds issuing debt via series ABC, VC, angels, IPO, lines of credit, SBA. Very rarely you will find a company that is fully bootstrap

[Extendedcab]

Well thank god you pasted a chatGPT output where you didn?t even show the input you fed it. now we know the truth

The input to ChatGPT and another tool as well was “How is NIL destroying college sports “. The answer is quite comprehensive.

ETA

What does it matter the question I asked? It searched its dataset ( I have no control over that) and came to the conclusions listed. Can you dispute any points it listed? Do you think college sports is better off today?

[Pancho]

how many of the 12 teams in the 24 playoff will then be in it again in 25?

[GeoDawg]

Because your concept of a company is incorrect. Companies raise funds issuing debt via series ABC, VC, angels, IPO, lines of credit, SBA. Very rarely you will find a company that is fully bootstrap

If some of you want to act as investors, banks, etc., go right ahead. The irony is you're not an investor, you're a subsidizer. Not me I'm the customer.

I'll sit back and watch your subsidy go down the drain.

[DEDawg]

The input to ChatGPT and another tool as well was “How is NIL destroying college sports “. The answer is quite comprehensive.

ETA

What does it matter the question I asked? It searched its dataset ( I have no control over that) and came to the conclusions listed. Can you dispute any points it listed? Do you think college sports is better off today?

Now do ?How is NIL benefiting college sports? and you would get all the opposite. Point being, ask I biased question get a biased answer

[DEDawg]

If some of you want to act as investors, banks, etc., go right ahead. The irony is you're not an investor, you're a subsidizer. Not me I'm the customer.

I'll sit back and watch your subsidy go down the drain.

Don?t get cranky, you literally asked someone to tell you were your comparison was wrong. It?s a dumb comparison either way that doesn?t really apply

[GeoDawg]

Don?t get cranky, you literally asked someone to tell you were your comparison was wrong. It?s a dumb comparison either way that doesn?t really apply

No, my comparison is totally valid. MSU athletics is in the entertainment business. It is not a charity or non-profit. At least not anymore. That's out the window.

[schddog72]

ND wouldn't have stood a chance against the sec champs a few seasons ago. ASU in the playoffs. Ohio state, Georgia, and Texas in it, but with 2 losses. Not sure if this environment will help us, but it's definitely breaking up super teams

I'm going to totally disagree with you, as in 180 degrees. The transfer portal & NIL, in their current forms, are totally dismantling semblance of parity that the NCAA was ever a semblance of. Ultimately, NIL and unlimited transfers will create a super division/conference of most of the current "HAVES" (hint: it don't include MSU) and a somewhat larger group of the "have-nots" )which DOES include MSU. Unless drastic changes are made, the rich will continue to get richer and the poor will get poorer and will become just leftovers. College football is now the NFL but without rules, structure, or sideboards, and as it is, NFL means NOT FOR LONG. The real NFL is built and designed to promote parity based on talent in evaluating and living within a salary cap. College football at this time is ALL ABOUT THE BENJAMINS!! All you have to do is look a few miles to the north of Starkvegas and to most of this year's 12 playoff teams for confirmation. Otherwise, the rest of the bowls were taken from the "have-not" population (excluding, of course, DOS, et als). This picture is not about to change unless some NFL-type structure is added to the equation.

Apologies for direahea of the keyboard, but absurdity of this thread lead just set me off.

[Coach34]

Here is all you need to know:

Lebby had a deal with Arnold to come to State for 750K. He signed the paper. We thought we were good.

Auburn jumped in and offered 2MM. Arnold said **** you and your paper. I'm going to Auburn.

Then LSU took our young QB for about the same price we offered Arnold

This is our future in the SEC

[HoopsDawg]

Here is all you need to know:

Lebby had a deal with Arnold to come to State for 750K. He signed the paper. We thought we were good.

Auburn jumped in and offered 2MM. Arnold said **** you and your paper. I'm going to Auburn.

Then LSU took our young QB for about the same price we offered Arnold

This is our future in the SEC

Damn

[Coach34]

Damn

and here is what our fans either dont understand or dont want to admit:

Our QB signee- KT- who has MSU blood- is going to leave for a blue blood and double the money the second he has success at State. Ohio State or whomever will offer him 4MM while we are only able to pay 2MM at most to keep him. That is our future