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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Well we're probably taking him. I'll just go ahead and prepare you for that one.
    I know. And it's a stupid decision. Plenty of younger and more talented CBs with production and MS ties that are available and we're taking a guy with baggage that hasn't done anything for 3 different schools in 3 years.

    Corey Bell has moved past David Turner in level of incompetence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    I know. And it's a stupid decision. Plenty of younger and more talented CBs with production and MS ties that are available and we're taking a guy with baggage that hasn't done anything for 3 different schools in 3 years.

    Corey Bell has moved past David Turner in level of incompetence.
    Well those corners have to be interested first. That's generally a pretty important part of this process. We also are on two corners that have MS ties in Hall and Coats. Heck maybe we take both. I doubt it, but we could. Also, he apparently did enough that UTSA coaches were trying like hell to keep him.
    Last edited by StarkVegasSteve; 12-27-2024 at 05:15 PM.

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    Also just so we can compare, let's take a look at two guys we JUST HAD TO HAVE and compare them to Harris.

    Khamauri Rogers- 1 tackle in 3 years, zero tackles in two years on the State roster. No PDs ever

    Raydarius Jones- 11 tackles in 4 years, with 9 coming in 21 at LSU. Two tackles this year. 1 PD in 4 years.

    Denver Harris- 37 tackles in 3 years. 14 at A&M, 7 at LSU, 16 at UTSA. 8 PDs in 3 years.


    Harris is markedly better than those two and he's markedly better than all but two of our current DBs. He can play and compete here. This is a guy you take a chance on. LSU and A&M saw enough to take a chance, and he produced for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    No thanks.
    We were 2-10 but his talent can't help us??? Look I get the baggage but he has been solid guy at UTSA. They absolutely did not want him to enter the transfer portal.

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    Squirrel White just entered the portal. Remember what I said about those receivers still in the playoffs........


    Also, his damn name is Squirrel. He was meant to play at Mississippi State. I can tell you though, Kiffin will try to get him solely because of the squirrel that ran on the field this year, my bad they released on the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    Plenty of younger and more talented CBs with production and MS ties
    This mindset is why the last two years have happened
    "We will have no problem in handling Kentucky."-Turfdawg67. MSU suffered a 27-17 defeat in 2022 with 225 yards in total offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msu15 View Post
    This mindset is why the last two years have happened
    Yea that's how we ended up Khamauri Rogers, Raydar, and Montre Miller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    We were 2-10 but his talent can't help us??? Look I get the baggage but he has been solid guy at UTSA. They absolutely did not want him to enter the transfer portal.
    What talent? He was a 5 star out of HS, but can't consistently start in 3 years? He's not good and he's a head case. There's videos of him speeding in parking garages pretty recklessly.

    We need someone to replace Brice Pollock, and this guy doesn't do that. I don't buy the "depth" argument either because he only has one year of eligibility left. Amarion Fortenberry is a freshman from South Alabama in the portal that has more production and better PFF grades in one year to Harris's 3. And we aren't pushing for him. From Columbia, MS.

    We need one of Coats/Hall (would prefer both) and then a depth guy like Fortenberry.

    Harris is a dumb take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msu15 View Post
    This mindset is why the last two years have happened
    No the last two years happened because we hired a horrible HC in Zack Arnett.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    What talent? He was a 5 star out of HS, but can't consistently start in 3 years? He's not good and he's a head case. There's videos of him speeding in parking garages pretty recklessly.

    We need someone to replace Brice Pollock, and this guy doesn't do that. I don't buy the "depth" argument either because he only has one year of eligibility left. Amarion Fortenberry is a freshman from South Alabama in the portal that has more production and better PFF grades in one year to Harris's 3. And we aren't pushing for him. From Columbia, MS.

    We need one of Coats/Hall (would prefer both) and then a depth guy like Fortenberry.

    Harris is a dumb take.
    I mean we're not gonna defend our Fulmer Cup title with Luke Kromenhoek***

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    No the last two years happened because we hired a horrible HC in Zack Arnett.
    Way way deeper than that. This is why we are where we are, short sighted decisions and just not paying attention over and over and over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coursesuper View Post
    Way way deeper than that. This is why we are where we are, short sighted decisions and just not paying attention over and over and over again.
    Well of course it's deeper than that, but a horrible hire after Leach's passing is the root of it.

    Taking 3 guys in the portal with MS ties isn't the reason we're where we're at, which was the post I was responding to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    No the last two years happened because we hired a horrible HC in Zack Arnett.
    Who did exactly what you just said to do-take someone because they?re from Mississippi. RayDar Jones, Rogers, and Chris Keys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    I mean we're not gonna defend our Fulmer Cup title with Luke Kromenhoek***
    I?m sure we could go find a defensive back from the private school ranks in Mississippi who is good solid family man to play for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    What talent? He was a 5 star out of HS, but can't consistently start in 3 years? He's not good and he's a head case. There's videos of him speeding in parking garages pretty recklessly.

    We need someone to replace Brice Pollock, and this guy doesn't do that. I don't buy the "depth" argument either because he only has one year of eligibility left. Amarion Fortenberry is a freshman from South Alabama in the portal that has more production and better PFF grades in one year to Harris's 3. And we aren't pushing for him. From Columbia, MS.

    We need one of Coats/Hall (would prefer both) and then a depth guy like Fortenberry.

    Harris is a dumb take.
    Goodness, it wasn't lack of talent that kept him off the field at TAM and LSU. It was him being a knucklehead. He was the day 1 starter at UTSA and was injured the first game. My take is dumb? You are clueless about talent. If he is right and not doing stupid stuff he is more talented than Pollock. Not even close.

    We are not taking more than 2 guys, 1 likely. I'm fine with Coats or Hall too. But I don't let his baggage cloud his talent either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BankerDog View Post
    Who did exactly what you just said to do-take someone because they?re from Mississippi. RayDar Jones, Rogers, and Chris Keys.
    I not once said we should take someone because they're from Mississippi. But many times when a kid enters the portal, it's to move closer to home and proximity to home is why they're interested. That's just one factor. But I never said we should just take Mississippi players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BankerDog View Post
    I?m sure we could go find a defensive back from the private school ranks in Mississippi who is good solid family man to play for us.
    I bet John Wesley Thompson VII down at Oak Hill Academy would make a fine young CB for us!!! He runs a BLAZING 5.3 40 and benches 120 but his granddad goes to church with someone and he says he loves Mississippi State!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    Goodness, it wasn't lack of talent that kept him off the field at TAM and LSU. It was him being a knucklehead. He was the day 1 starter at UTSA and was injured the first game. My take is dumb, if he is right and not doing stupid stuff he is more talented than Pollock. Not even close.

    We are not taking more than 2 guys, 1 likely. I'm fine with Coats or Hall too. But I don't let his baggage cloud his talent either.
    We'll just agree to disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BankerDog View Post
    I?m sure we could go find a defensive back from the private school ranks in Mississippi who is good solid family man to play for us.
    Yeah, no one said that either, but go off

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