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12-27-2024, 02:40 PM
#2421

Originally Posted by
BankerDog
-Brown played in the NFL for two seasons or so,Calvin played in the NFL for three seasons, Hoyett as well. AJ made it to final cuts with Rams.
-Corey played for two seasons in NFL, Gerri at least four seasons,Sweat well obviously, and Spencer spent at least two years in NFL.
So our DL weren?t just some chumps, they were NFL level talent. And people say Mullen couldn?t recruit ha.
Honestly, the only place Mullen really struggled over the long run was recruiting highly rated WR's. It never showed in the ratings but he recruited higher than the services gave him credit for and that became the de facto message board fodder, Mullen couldn't recruit. He wasn't the best recruiter but he was a damn good talent projector.
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12-27-2024, 02:46 PM
#2422

Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
Honestly, the only place Mullen really struggled over the long run was recruiting highly rated WR's. It never showed in the ratings but he recruited higher than the services gave him credit for and that became the de facto message board fodder, Mullen couldn't recruit. He wasn't the best recruiter but he was a damn good talent projector.
Mullen knew what he wanted. He didn't like chasing stars, especially after the Newton fiasco and the Quay Evans saga. He figured out he could develop and once every 3-4 years really compete. He knew his scheming and coaching would win 6-8 games every year.
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12-27-2024, 02:50 PM
#2423

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Kelly Ahkaraiyi declared for the draft today. We're in the market for 2 WRs again.
I guess some guys are just ready to take their shot even if the odds are against them.
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12-27-2024, 02:52 PM
#2424

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Mullen knew what he wanted. He didn't like chasing stars, especially after the Newton fiasco and the Quay Evans saga. He figured out he could develop and once every 3-4 years really compete. He knew his scheming and coaching would win 6-8 games every year.
If you go back and look at the schedule, he got Kentucky every year and for some reason I think we played Vandy 2-3 times with him. Throw in the fact that the bears were a trainwreck, and his floor most seasons was 6 wins.
That said, I'd drive to Vegas today and drive him back here if he was willing.
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12-27-2024, 02:58 PM
#2425

Originally Posted by
Irondawg
I guess some guys are just ready to take their shot even if the odds are against them.
He wouldn't have been eligible for another year even under the new JUCO ruling.
Last edited by Really Clark?; 12-27-2024 at 03:03 PM.
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12-27-2024, 03:17 PM
#2426

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Mullen knew what he wanted. He didn't like chasing stars, especially after the Newton fiasco and the Quay Evans saga. He figured out he could develop and once every 3-4 years really compete. He knew his scheming and coaching would win 6-8 games every year.
Sir, stop it. Every coach like stars and recruits them, Mullen included. The big difference is Mullen didn't solely rely on stars. He was/is a rarity which is a true developer program.
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12-27-2024, 03:20 PM
#2427

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Dan isn't coming back. I can say that with pretty much 100% confidence. There were talks last year and he had no interest. He only took the UNLV job because Bishop Gorman is such a good HS that his son will get recognition and the AAU circuit is huge in Vegas now.
There's also the Zach Arnett piece to it. We will never let him back in our building again.
His son isn't getting recognition unless he can play. And unless he pulls height from a great great grandfather being a 5'8 guard wouldn't get hiim far.
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12-27-2024, 03:24 PM
#2428

Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
Sir, stop it. Every coach like stars and recruits them, Mullen included. The big difference is Mullen didn't solely rely on stars. He was/is a rarity which is a true developer program.
Mullen didn't really recruit them tbh. I mean I can count the high 4 and 5 stars we were on under Mullen on two hands. And that's not a knock on Dan. He knew what he needed. Whether that guy had 2 stars by his name or 5. I mean I can tell you with unequivocal confidence that Bernardrick McKinney(2 star out of Rosa Fort) was a better college player and pro than Robert Nkemdiche(5 star and number 1 player in the country). Dan didn't need guys like that, he'd take them if he evaluated them and liked them, see Mackensie Alexander who we had until Signing Day. Mullen was an evaluation master, along with Hevesy. He could potential where no one was else was even looking, see Elgton or Darius Slay or Braxton Hoyett.
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12-27-2024, 03:25 PM
#2429

Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
His son isn't getting recognition unless he can play. And unless he pulls height from a great great grandfather being a 5'8 guard wouldn't get hiim far.
He's already 6'2 or 6'3. He got his height from Meghan.
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12-27-2024, 03:28 PM
#2430

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
He's already 6'2 or 6'3. He got his height from Meghan.
Nice
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12-27-2024, 04:03 PM
#2431

Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
His son isn't getting recognition unless he can play. And unless he pulls height from a great great grandfather being a 5'8 guard wouldn't get hiim far.
I thought his kid was a golfer?
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12-27-2024, 04:11 PM
#2432

Originally Posted by
Tripp McNeely
I thought his kid was a golfer?
Then he grew. Cannon is actually a pretty good basketball player. Probably not P4, but he's got some talent. Plays for the Atlanta Celtics.
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12-27-2024, 04:38 PM
#2433
Very interesting to see John Lewis still hasn't found a home. I figured he would've just committed to USM by now. I mean I don't think he's a LBer at the SEC level, but I think he could be a pretty good G5 LB. Then again, could be a situation where he and his representation are overvaluing him.
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12-27-2024, 04:42 PM
#2434
Denver Harris in the portal
"We will have no problem in handling Kentucky."-Turfdawg67. MSU suffered a 27-17 defeat in 2022 with 225 yards in total offense.
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12-27-2024, 04:47 PM
#2435

Originally Posted by
msu15
Denver Harris in the portal
If his crap is together, may be the best in the portal on pure talent. But he has self sabotaged twice now. Good reports from UTSA though this past year. Even worked through a lot of little injuries this season.
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12-27-2024, 04:51 PM
#2436

Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
If his crap is together, may be the best in the portal on pure talent. But he has self sabotaged twice now. Good reports from UTSA though this past year. Even worked through a lot of little injuries this season.
We'll be a player for him. I'd expect us to take him and either Coats from Nevada or Stephen Hall from WSU. Kind of an either/or situation there. Still a bit early to tell who we have a better shot at. If I had to guess now, it'd be Hall.
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12-27-2024, 05:06 PM
#2437

Originally Posted by
msu15
Denver Harris in the portal
No thanks.
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12-27-2024, 05:07 PM
#2438

Originally Posted by
KOdawg1
No thanks.
Well we're probably taking him. I'll just go ahead and prepare you for that one. Also, I can guarantee you he's better than Khaumari Rodgers, Raydar, or Montre Miller and we had all those guys on the roster this year. He AT WORST can be a depth piece for you and fight for the 3rd corner position with Elijah Cannon, Jayven Williams, and Kyle Johnson. If he's healthy and ready to compete I would imagine he could win that job and push Kelley Jones.
Last edited by StarkVegasSteve; 12-27-2024 at 05:11 PM.
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12-27-2024, 05:10 PM
#2439

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Well we're probably taking him. I'll just go ahead and prepare you for that one.
I know. And it's a stupid decision. Plenty of younger and more talented CBs with production and MS ties that are available and we're taking a guy with baggage that hasn't done anything for 3 different schools in 3 years.
Corey Bell has moved past David Turner in level of incompetence.
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12-27-2024, 05:12 PM
#2440

Originally Posted by
KOdawg1
I know. And it's a stupid decision. Plenty of younger and more talented CBs with production and MS ties that are available and we're taking a guy with baggage that hasn't done anything for 3 different schools in 3 years.
Corey Bell has moved past David Turner in level of incompetence.
Well those corners have to be interested first. That's generally a pretty important part of this process. We also are on two corners that have MS ties in Hall and Coats. Heck maybe we take both. I doubt it, but we could. Also, he apparently did enough that UTSA coaches were trying like hell to keep him.
Last edited by StarkVegasSteve; 12-27-2024 at 05:15 PM.
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