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12-27-2024, 10:22 AM
#2381

Originally Posted by
KB21
I hope we can close on Mi'Quise Grace as well.
He's cancelled his visit to Ohio St. It sounds like we have the inside track. He'd be a huge EDGE piece to get. Still a little worried about d tackle though. Just getting Darron Reed and Jaray Bledsoe probably won't cut it. We need some war daddies who have done it.
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12-27-2024, 10:25 AM
#2382
Could we get some names of who are top portal targets are right now? So hard to keep up with who our #1s by position may be. I guess it’s a pretty fluid situation though
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12-27-2024, 10:56 AM
#2383
Grace and Whitson make us better
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12-27-2024, 11:03 AM
#2384

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Rosebowl hinting at good news on Saturday. Educated guess that it's about Cam Young?
Who is that?
"We will have no problem in handling Kentucky."-Turfdawg67. MSU suffered a 27-17 defeat in 2022 with 225 yards in total offense.
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12-27-2024, 11:07 AM
#2385

Originally Posted by
msu15
Who is that?
I think he meant Cam Vaughn, the WR from JSU. It's not him though. It's Whitson and Thomas. I would expect we hear from at least one of them by the end of the day today.
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12-27-2024, 11:08 AM
#2386

Originally Posted by
Bdawg
Could we get some names of who are top portal targets are right now? So hard to keep up with who our #1s by position may be. I guess it’s a pretty fluid situation though
It's extremely fluid. I think Will Whitson from Coastal Carolina is our number one DL target at the moment followed by Rashein(sp?) Thomas. I think we're in a bit of a wait and see mode at CB right now as well as WR.
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12-27-2024, 11:19 AM
#2387
The way things are looking currently with talent with comparison to last years squad to this years. Still plenty of time for this to change obviously.
Qb- push
Rb- increase
OL- increase (with younger pups growing up and 3 starters back)
Wr- decrease
DL- increase (nearly impossible to decrease, with whitson and Dakota player greatly increase)
Edge- great increase
LB- great increase
Safety- increase
Corner- push or decrease
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12-27-2024, 11:34 AM
#2388
Another consideration about stonka. I know the rumors are he would be open to safety, but if we don’t feel well about our talent and/or numbers at wr, the team may need him to stay at wr.
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12-27-2024, 11:35 AM
#2389

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
He's cancelled his visit to Ohio St. It sounds like we have the inside track. He'd be a huge EDGE piece to get. Still a little worried about d tackle though. Just getting Darron Reed and Jaray Bledsoe probably won't cut it. We need some war daddies who have done it.
We signed high school kids and the juco guy not to mention guys from last year.
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12-27-2024, 11:35 AM
#2390

Originally Posted by
bigbub50
Another consideration about stonka. I know the rumors are he would be open to safety, but if we don’t feel well about our talent and/or numbers at wr, the team may need him to stay at wr.
No he needs to move. It will serve the team and him to move to Safety. He's never going to be an impact receiver at this level. He can be an impact safety though.
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12-27-2024, 11:36 AM
#2391

Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
We signed high school kids and the juco guy not to mention guys from last year.
None of our HS or JUCO guys are ready to START. They are depth pieces. And out of the guys from last year, who could start? I am being serious. I do not see a starter in that group.
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12-27-2024, 11:37 AM
#2392

Originally Posted by
bigbub50
Another consideration about stonka. I know the rumors are he would be open to safety, but if we don’t feel well about our talent and/or numbers at wr, the team may need him to stay at wr.
At the moment I agree. The WR is thin
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12-27-2024, 11:38 AM
#2393

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
None of our HS or JUCO guys are ready to START. They are depth pieces. And out of the guys from last year, who could start? I am being serious. I do not see a starter in that group.
You won't know that until practice starts.
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12-27-2024, 11:41 AM
#2394

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
None of our HS or JUCO guys are ready to START. They are depth pieces. And out of the guys from last year, who could start? I am being serious. I do not see a starter in that group.
I could blur my eyes and see McClendon making a huge jump with the right attitude, work ethic, and nutrition. He still probably needs another year. He was thrown into the fire, so he got some experience. Honestly, he looked a tad over weight and needs to get his body right.
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12-27-2024, 11:44 AM
#2395

Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
You won't know that until practice starts.
I feel pretty confident in it. I mean MAYBE Kai McClendon and Kalvin Dinkins can take that next step but Hibbler still needs a year, Corey Clark will always just be a depth piece, Gabe Moore transferred, Deonte is probably more of an EDGE guy, Ashun Shepphard is a higher end depth piece but still a depth piece, Kpaka is gone, DeMonte is gone, Trevion can't stay healthy, and Bingley-Jones is a depth piece. That's our DL room.
And when I say depth piece I don't mean that as a bad thing. Grant Harris was a depth piece for us in 17 and 18 and was great. Same with Corey Thomas. You need those guys, but they are not starters. We didn't have a DL guy that would start for another SEC program last year, and maybe only a couple that could start for ANY P4 program.
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12-27-2024, 11:56 AM
#2396
Member

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
I think he meant Cam Vaughn, the WR from JSU. It's not him though. It's Whitson and Thomas. I would expect we hear from at least one of them by the end of the day today.
How are we feeling about Cam Vaughn? I believe I saw that he's scheduled for a visit soon.
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12-27-2024, 11:56 AM
#2397

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
I feel pretty confident in it. I mean MAYBE Kai McClendon and Kalvin Dinkins can take that next step but Hibbler still needs a year, Corey Clark will always just be a depth piece, Gabe Moore transferred, Deonte is probably more of an EDGE guy, Ashun Shepphard is a higher end depth piece but still a depth piece, Kpaka is gone, DeMonte is gone, Trevion can't stay healthy, and Bingley-Jones is a depth piece. That's our DL room.
And when I say depth piece I don't mean that as a bad thing. Grant Harris was a depth piece for us in 17 and 18 and was great. Same with Corey Thomas. You need those guys, but they are not starters. We didn't have a DL guy that would start for another SEC program last year, and maybe only a couple that could start for ANY P4 program.
IF ALL the guys coming back and signed are back ups the transfers are expected to be starters. Football doesn't work that way. Guys will improve year to year. Again, everyone isn't Chris Jones. However, I'm confident returning guys are SEC talents.
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12-27-2024, 12:09 PM
#2398

Originally Posted by
FlytheW3
How are we feeling about Cam Vaughn? I believe I saw that he's scheduled for a visit soon.
He pushed his visit till Jan to give himself more time to go through the process.
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12-27-2024, 12:19 PM
#2399

Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
IF ALL the guys coming back and signed are back ups the transfers are expected to be starters. Football doesn't work that way. Guys will improve year to year. Again, everyone isn't Chris Jones. However, I'm confident returning guys are SEC talents.
I'm glad you are, because I'm not. If we have SEC talent, it sure didn't show this year. I mean there's a reason we're bringing in so many guys, it's because we don't think we have talent or depth at that position. Like I said, we have some depth pieces but no high end starters. Could Kalvin Dinkins be that? Absolutely. Could Trevion Williams be that? Absolutely. The problem is that we're hoping and not knowing. Hope gets you beat in the SEC. You need production, especially this day and age.
That's why I'm really excited about a guy like Will Whitson. He's shown he can do it and stay healthy doing it, yes he got banged up last year but could've come back. He shut it down so he could enter the portal. We don't know if Dinkins can do it and Trevion hasn't been healthy long enough to see. If those guys could get and stay healthy, then we have something.
Last edited by StarkVegasSteve; 12-27-2024 at 12:23 PM.
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12-27-2024, 12:22 PM
#2400

Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
IF ALL the guys coming back and signed are back ups the transfers are expected to be starters. Football doesn't work that way. Guys will improve year to year. Again, everyone isn't Chris Jones. However, I'm confident returning guys are SEC talents.
Did you watch the same defensive line group last year that I watched?
"We will have no problem in handling Kentucky."-Turfdawg67. MSU suffered a 27-17 defeat in 2022 with 225 yards in total offense.
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