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Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
You serious Clark?
Yes he is serious. He is an idiot. ?Dan didn?t want Cam bad enough?. No our fans didn?t want it bad enough. The compliance guy literally had a guy on this page banned for helping Redmond out. Other schools would?ve fought it, we just turned ourselves in because ?ah shucks we?re good boys?
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Originally Posted by
BankerDog
Yes he is serious. He is an idiot. ?Dan didn?t want Cam bad enough?. No our fans didn?t want it bad enough. The compliance guy literally had a guy on this page banned for helping Redmond out. Other schools would?ve fought it, we just turned ourselves in because ?ah shucks we?re good boys?
What about Bracky being a self-sabotaging idot and John Bond not saying "well get the 180k" at Captain D's has anything to do with fans on the message board?
Further, anyone whose argument on a message board tells another fan to spend more money is admitting they don't have a real argument and the other person is right.
But - for your sake - whenever the Lebby Buyout fund is asked for, let me know.
"Once the game starts, it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, July 10th, 2010
"No one ever said it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, June 12th, 2011
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Hell yes. Except for the last paragraph.
We could have paid Arnold to not visit. Could have paid him what Auburn is paying him. Lebby didn't do it. It's not the fans. It's not the money. It's the coaching staff that failed.
That is just not reality Todd. All we were at the end was a tool to leverage their negotiations with Auburn. At some point you have to draw the line, especially with all of our other needs. I mean what do you think would have been wise once it became apparent what this was? We could have paid him $250,000 to visit us and not go anywhere else. The minute he left with our money he could have still walked on over to Auburn and started working on the deal with them.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
So we're blaming the town of Starkville when our coaches have swung and missed? LOL. If the town was a big deal Vanderbilt and Tulane would be what Alabama is in football. And if I was a college kid into cool college towns Auburn or Opelika isn't exactly my first choice.
Vandy and Tulane have different academic standards that hamper them.
Starkville is not the only reason- but it is a big reason
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Vandy and Tulane have different academic standards that hamper them.
Starkville is not the only reason- but it is a big reason
Many rarely ever see the real issues, just point out other non issues, then add in a healthy dose of what aboutism and do both real loud.
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Originally Posted by
BankerDog
Yes he is serious. He is an idiot. ?Dan didn?t want Cam bad enough?. No our fans didn?t want it bad enough. The compliance guy literally had a guy on this page banned for helping Redmond out. Other schools would?ve fought it, we just turned ourselves in because ?ah shucks we?re good boys?
At least he know how to type without dumb question marks throughout the post. Lol
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Originally Posted by
BankerDog
Dude it?s different times. Dan didn?t just recruit ?diamonds in rough? that?s what was deemed. He evaluated better than what some DA ranking said from a camp. Remember when people were pissed and said he couldn?t recruit? Or DA?s like you said Hevesy couldn?t coach?
Leach won off of Joe?s talent. Arnett..what a joke. We money balled that whole roster: RayDar, Rogers (both 4* players in HS), Chris Keys, etc. what me to keep going?
Finding developmental players was absolutely the mantra for Dan while he was here. And yes, it worked some. But it also limited our ceiling and it hurt the perception of our program nationally when it comes to recruiting. Perception is reality.
Still taking up for the best football coach in Lowe's history I see? If he was half as good as you say he is he would be in the NFL right now or at the very least coaching somewhere in college. But I guess me and everyone that coaches football is a dumbass too? Maybe Dan will feel sorry for him and hire him at UNLV and he can go play at Target or the mall there.

Originally Posted by
BankerDog
Perception dumbass. Auburn had won natty?s. Oxford is looked upon better.
You?re a prime example of what is wrong. Always bitching yet never donating. How about you shell out your $50k donation next time Charlie ask to get Arnold to visit?
You're really going the money is the problem route when in the past three months MSU has gotten major donations for football totaling over 12 million dollars? That's BEFORE whatever millions we had in NIL before those donations happened. How about the issue is MSU actually spend the money that is being given to them to get good players? Or is pointing that out somehow making me "the problem"? The real problem is not holding the coaching staff accountable for their failures in an effort to somehow pretend that we're all pulling in the same direction. At some point Lebby has to get off the pot or start shitting.

Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
That is just not reality Todd. All we were at the end was a tool to leverage their negotiations with Auburn. At some point you have to draw the line, especially with all of our other needs. I mean what do you think would have been wise once it became apparent what this was? We could have paid him $250,000 to visit us and not go anywhere else. The minute he left with our money he could have still walked on over to Auburn and started working on the deal with them.
If there is bidding war going on then use one of the fan boys to call them out on it. Steve tried to do that I guess. Would be a good way to put them to good use. I know for example the St Louis Cardinals have leaked things through the media to provide context to fans for moves that were unpopular.

Originally Posted by
Coach34
Vandy and Tulane have different academic standards that hamper them.
Starkville is not the only reason- but it is a big reason
Their academic standards didn't prevent Vanderbilt from raiding that great American bastion of education New Mexico State. Also, Tulane pretty much rebuilt their team in the portal in one offseason as well and maintained their status quo that had been going on during the Fritz era.
MSU on the other hand routinely ****s it up.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Finding developmental players was absolutely the mantra for Dan while he was here. And yes, it worked some. But it also limited our ceiling and it hurt the perception of our program nationally when it comes to recruiting. Perception is reality.
Still taking up for the best football coach in Lowe's history I see? If he was half as good as you say he is he would be in the NFL right now or at the very least coaching somewhere in college. But I guess me and everyone that coaches football is a dumbass too? Maybe Dan will feel sorry for him and hire him at UNLV and he can go play at Target or the mall there.
You're really going the money is the problem route when in the past three months MSU has gotten major donations for football totaling over 12 million dollars? That's BEFORE whatever millions we had in NIL before those donations happened. How about the issue is MSU actually spend the money that is being given to them to get good players? Or is pointing that out somehow making me "the problem"? The real problem is not holding the coaching staff accountable for their failures in an effort to somehow pretend that we're all pulling in the same direction. At some point Lebby has to get off the pot or start shitting.
If there is bidding war going on then use one of the fan boys to call them out on it. Steve tried to do that I guess. Would be a good way to put them to good use. I know for example the St Louis Cardinals have leaked things through the media to provide context to fans for moves that were unpopular.
Their academic standards didn't prevent Vanderbilt from raiding that great American bastion of education New Mexico State. Also, Tulane pretty much rebuilt their team in the portal in one offseason as well and maintained their status quo that had been going on during the Fritz era.
MSU on the other hand routinely ****s it up.
You always had great baseball posts and insights so I just assumed a while back that you were pretty grounded and on point with all MSU opinions.
Lately though? Woah boy. You will post some stuff that has me scratching my head wondering if you might be losing it a little.
I am not sure how old you are or where you live/have lived but you seem to be rather small minded in your outlook on things.
Just my observation.
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