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12-13-2024, 09:22 AM
#1001
JA isn't worth 1 million he hasn't won anything in college.
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12-13-2024, 09:22 AM
#1002

Originally Posted by
confucius say
Agree.
We are all in on Shapen anyway per hadad and Faulk this morning.
They know exactly dick.
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12-13-2024, 09:24 AM
#1003

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
That's exactly what Freeze is trying to do. He is trying to get him and then he'll make him compete with 2 other transfers for the starting job, along with Deuce Knight who is going to be their guy in 26 anyways.
I think you’re right. We end up with him probably by this weekend. Auburn never wanted him REALLY. If they did they would probably have had him committed yesterday. Truthfully, after this fiasco and getting pressured by freeze and the kid like that, I almost want the FSU kid out of spite. Would still love to have Arnold and if he’s in Maroon and white I’ll support him no matter what.
That kind of stuff just leaves a sour taste in your mouth though.
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12-13-2024, 09:25 AM
#1004
i see several short snippets of those 2 daily. never seen a bigger 2 wanna bees anywhere. they know less than several of us on this forum.
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12-13-2024, 09:32 AM
#1005

Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
JA isn't worth 1 million he hasn't won anything in college.
True. Unfortunately nobody is worth what they end up getting. Sucks.
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12-13-2024, 09:35 AM
#1006

Originally Posted by
Homedawg
True. Unfortunately nobody is worth what they end up getting. Sucks.
Yep, greed all the way around.
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12-13-2024, 09:37 AM
#1007
I think if the market will pay it, you are worth it. Hell, if I had a clinic call me and offer me $600,000 guaranteed to see 20 patients a day, I'd call my wife and tell her we are moving.
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12-13-2024, 09:41 AM
#1008

Originally Posted by
Brobi-wan
I think you’re right. We end up with him probably by this weekend. Auburn never wanted him REALLY. If they did they would probably have had him committed yesterday. Truthfully, after this fiasco and getting pressured by freeze and the kid like that, I almost want the FSU kid out of spite. Would still love to have Arnold and if he’s in Maroon and white I’ll support him no matter what.
That kind of stuff just leaves a sour taste in your mouth though.
Yeah, for someone recruited by Lebby and supposedly WANTS to be in his system and coached by him this is just a really bad look.
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12-13-2024, 09:44 AM
#1009

Originally Posted by
KB21
I think if the market will pay it, you are worth it. Hell, if I had a clinic call me and offer me $600,000 guaranteed to see 20 patients a day, I'd call my wife and tell her we are moving.
Not completely wrong. I would go back to commuting to work in a second if a nice raise came with it.
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12-13-2024, 09:46 AM
#1010

Originally Posted by
TrapGame
Yeah, for someone recruited by Lebby and supposedly WANTS to be in his system and coached by him this is just a really bad look.
You're right. It's not a good look. But you know we allowed ourselves into this position. We should've just paid MKT value for a QB and moved on. Instead we let Freeze get involved and they were handing out cash to visit. Hell, we should've paid him the 25K.
Here's the other thing though. This kid is 20 years old. I mean it would hard to not get caught up in the recruiting at that age. I mean this is a kid that was told by one fanbase that he sucked for a majority of the year and now he has multiple SEC programs, one of which HIS BACKUP beat, telling him he's the answer to their prayers.
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12-13-2024, 09:47 AM
#1011

Originally Posted by
confucius say
We have 12-13 million allocated for the 2025 roster. Not 20.
People supposedly can't buy eggs, but we can raise $12-$13 million a year for a college football team. It just means more I guess?
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12-13-2024, 09:50 AM
#1012

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
The price isn't 2.0/year. I don't know the price at this point, but if I had to peg it right now, it's 1.2/year. What I was saying was that we had raised the funds where we can 2.0/year. I feel like if we just say, "Ok enough with this BS here's 1.5-1.6/year" then that will get it done. You know this is going to be a valuable lesson to Jeff Lebby. DO NOT EVER LET HUGH FREEZE GET INVOLVED WITH A RECRUIT. He learned how to recruit from probably the best recruiter anyone has ever seen in Ed Orgeron. I mean Ed learned from Jimmy and Dennis how they did it at Miami and then he brought that with him to USC where he, Pete, and Lane molded it into the greatest recruiting strategy anyone has ever seen.
I love how you are educating us on freeze now and 48 hours ago you weren't concerned at all about JA visiting there and talked down to those of us who were concerned - you were fed bad info
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12-13-2024, 09:51 AM
#1013

Originally Posted by
Homedawg
True. Unfortunately nobody is worth what they end up getting. Sucks.
Including coaches
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12-13-2024, 09:52 AM
#1014

Originally Posted by
Cowbell
I love how you are educating us on freeze now and 48 hours ago you weren't concerned at all about JA visiting there and talked down to those of us who were concerned - you were fed bad info
No. The info was good. But that's fine. I just won't share anything from now on. That seems easier at this point than having to deal with people with less than zero sources criticizing.
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12-13-2024, 09:54 AM
#1015
keep the info coming, Steve. pay no attention to the nay sayers.
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12-13-2024, 09:58 AM
#1016

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
No. The info was good. But that's fine. I just won't share anything from now on. That seems easier at this point than having to deal with people with less than zero sources criticizing.
Don't stop sharing your info. You've kept the discussion and board going. No one can control the thoughts of these kids. They all think they're worth it and better than what others think.
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12-13-2024, 09:59 AM
#1017

Originally Posted by
Pancho
keep the info coming, Steve. pay no attention to the nay sayers.
Nah. I am done with it tbh. It is more trouble than it is worth trying to argue. I am arguing with people who cannot grasp how recruiting has worked in this conference for 50 years. NIL has made no difference. It has just brought it to the forefront. I will just be a regular poster again. That is easier anyways than draining my phone battery 3 times a day talking to people about all this crap. I will leave it to the people who are paid 40K to report it.
And I will still answer anyone who asks. Just shoot me a PM and I will let you know what is going on.
Last edited by StarkVegasSteve; 12-13-2024 at 10:01 AM.
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12-13-2024, 10:01 AM
#1018
maybe this cowbell cat can try educating folks out there in the stratosphere********
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12-13-2024, 10:03 AM
#1019

Originally Posted by
Cowbell
I love how you are educating us on freeze now and 48 hours ago you weren't concerned at all about JA visiting there and talked down to those of us who were concerned - you were fed bad info
His info is good. But unless you are in the room with the coaches and players and have first hand knowledge to share, which no one does, then there will always be room for errors. I have literally received 180 degree conflicting reports on a recruit at the same time. Both were right when they sent the message because the recruiting turned in less than 5 minutes. It's more volatile than the stock market.
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12-13-2024, 10:08 AM
#1020

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Nah. I am done with it tbh. It is more trouble than it is worth trying to argue. I am arguing with people who cannot grasp how recruiting has worked in this conference for 50 years. NIL has made no difference. It has just brought it to the forefront. I will just be a regular poster again. That is easier anyways than draining my phone battery 3 times a day talking to people about all this crap. I will leave it to the people who are paid 40K to report it.
And I will still answer anyone who asks. Just shoot me a PM and I will let you know what is going on.
Come on man, some of us love your posts and your information. Just keep us informed and don't engage with the haters.
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