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12-07-2024, 09:58 PM
#321
Burroughs is not transfer btw. He was completely out of football this whole year and not in the portal. He only had to sign his financial aid agreement.
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12-07-2024, 10:01 PM
#322
And let me play Devil's advocate even though I am all for firing Hutzler. Turner's group was by far the worst on the defense.
LB's- Stone and Jennings weren't terrible. Tillman emerged late. Not great but could have been way worse.
CB's Jones and Pollack were solid even though one was a freshman and they had zero help from the pass rush.
S- Isaac Smith was our best player on defense. Washington and Lanier weren't very good but they had no help from the pass rush.
I think it is conceivable that our DL was such trash because of Turner that everything else had no chance. And if that's the case improving that position group alone could help alone.
And of all the position groups the most JUCO heavy was the DL. I have to believe that Turner was a big reason for that if it is true he doesn't like the portal. And then he lost his best JUCO DL recruit to South Carolina.
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12-07-2024, 10:02 PM
#323

Originally Posted by
Brobi-wan
Wouldn’t it save you from a severance negotiation to just let it expire?
You just pay out the remainder of the contract.
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12-07-2024, 10:09 PM
#324

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
I think it is conceivable that our DL was such trash because of Turner that everything else had no chance. And if that's the case improving that position group alone could help alone.
So basically Turner is our Scott Foxhall of football
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12-07-2024, 10:19 PM
#325

Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
You just pay out the remainder of the contract.
or just say that his contract will not be renewed. Either way, the fans know that something is getting done.
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12-07-2024, 10:22 PM
#326

Originally Posted by
DawgFromOxford
So basically Turner is our Scott Foxhall of football
Yeah! He could be. The only reason he is here is because the boosters brought him back and Lebby I'm sure was convinced to keep him.
Lebby was probably watching him in practice like "This guy is awful."
It sounds like boosters covered his ass when Dan was here and he is completely oblivious that we paid to get Jones and Simmons.
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12-08-2024, 12:47 AM
#327

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Yep. Leach's offense bailed him out at least a couple of times as well. 2022 Auburn comes to mind. Arnett's defense also almost choked away the 2022 Egg Bowl. Fortunately for us Kiffin decided to get cute and call a play that had about a 5% chance of working on the goal line.
Arnett also cost us a win against Georgia with an all out blitz call that we go burned on.
You don't know what you are talking about Todd. Arnette single-handily is the reason we got the egg in 22 despite Will trying to give it away twice. 2022 Auburn the defense had to hold the entire second half for the offense to come back. He made the needed adjustments. For Arnettes defense to be as good as it was with such a poor time of possession disadvantage with the Leach offense is really impressive.
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12-08-2024, 12:50 AM
#328

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Ok. You are an idiot. Why do our fans overinflate Arnett and make it seem like he was prime Joe Lee? He was an average DC.
I may be an idiot. But you lack reading comprehension. I didn't over inflate anyone. I just said he is better than anyone mentioned above. That's without a doubt. I would love to have an average DC right now. Wouldn't you? Only an idiot wouldn't....
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12-08-2024, 01:02 AM
#329
Zach Arnett was a good DC. He was no recruiter though.
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12-08-2024, 11:57 AM
#330

Originally Posted by
Cowbell
I may be an idiot. But you lack reading comprehension. I didn't over inflate anyone. I just said he is better than anyone mentioned above. That's without a doubt. I would love to have an average DC right now. Wouldn't you? Only an idiot wouldn't....
Then I will be the idiot. I want no part of a coach WHO STOOD IN FRONT OF HIS TEAM and said, “Two more wins and MY JOB IS SAFE”. Not two more wins and we go to a bowl or two more wins and we build some momentum. Nope all that lying POS ever cared about was himself. Adversity reveals character and his was revealed in that moment after the UK game.
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12-08-2024, 12:07 PM
#331

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Then I will be the idiot. I want no part of a coach WHO STOOD IN FRONT OF HIS TEAM and said, “Two more wins and MY JOB IS SAFE”. Not two more wins and we go to a bowl or two more wins and we build some momentum. Nope all that lying POS ever cared about was himself. Adversity reveals character and his was revealed in that moment after the UK game.
Every word typed here is exactly why that guy should never darken a door in the Seal building again. Lost the team at that moment and tanked everything.
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12-08-2024, 12:20 PM
#332

Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
You just pay out the remainder of the contract.
Exactly, why do we let him be the DL coach all the way until Feb 1 when we need a new DL coach right now that might actually be attractive to play for while we are recruiting the portal through all of Jan? Our talent on DL currently is so pathetic that it is totally crippling to the rest of the defense and the overall team.
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12-08-2024, 12:52 PM
#333

Originally Posted by
maroonmania
Exactly, why do we let him be the DL coach all the way until Feb 1 when we need a new DL coach right now that might actually be attractive to play for while we are recruiting the portal through all of Jan? Our talent on DL currently is so pathetic that it is totally crippling to the rest of the defense and the overall team.
Or….you just tell him do not come back and we will pay out the remainder of your contract. He can still be employed and we have a new DL coach.
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12-08-2024, 01:26 PM
#334

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Or….you just tell him do not come back and we will pay out the remainder of your contract. He can still be employed and we have a new DL coach.
I?m really wondering if we are hiring WKU?s Carson Hall for DL coach.
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12-08-2024, 01:30 PM
#335

Originally Posted by
KB21
I?m really wondering if we are hiring WKU?s Carson Hall for DL coach.
Got zero on that one, where are you hearing this?
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12-08-2024, 02:58 PM
#336

Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
Got zero on that one, where are you hearing this?
Not hearing it. His name keeps popping up with a lot of the portal guys we are after though, so it just makes me wonder.
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12-08-2024, 03:51 PM
#337

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Then I will be the idiot. I want no part of a coach WHO STOOD IN FRONT OF HIS TEAM and said, ?Two more wins and MY JOB IS SAFE?. Not two more wins and we go to a bowl or two more wins and we build some momentum. Nope all that lying POS ever cared about was himself. Adversity reveals character and his was revealed in that moment after the UK game.
See - this is a good rebuttal. I can go along with this. My sources (who are very solid) told me a different account. Doesn't make you or I an idiot. And I'm not saying he's great. Just dang sure better than what we have now at DC. I appreciate you treating me like a grown adult.
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12-08-2024, 04:16 PM
#338

Originally Posted by
Cowbell
You don't know what you are talking about Todd. Arnette single-handily is the reason we got the egg in 22 despite Will trying to give it away twice. 2022 Auburn the defense had to hold the entire second half for the offense to come back. He made the needed adjustments. For Arnettes defense to be as good as it was with such a poor time of possession disadvantage with the Leach offense is really impressive.
Yeah. Because nothing says coming up big like allowing a 99 yard touchdown drive to tie the game.**
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12-08-2024, 08:50 PM
#339
UCF center Caden Kitler is in town.
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12-08-2024, 08:51 PM
#340
Kitler is on campus. Kennedy is a good recruiter so we will see if Kennedy can seal the deal
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