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12-04-2024, 01:43 PM
#501

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
No. It is not. OM is driving the price up, but Lockhart will sign with us on Wednesday.
Bump
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12-04-2024, 01:46 PM
#502

Originally Posted by
civildawg
Bump
Things change. Hell last night he was solid. We all woke up this morning and he wasn't. Welcome to recruiting. Chris Jones was signing with OM until the night before.
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12-04-2024, 01:54 PM
#503

Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
Held onto to Lo Jac!!!
Told Steve this?but he reminds me so much of Nickoe when Nickoe was in high school. Real deal thumper who is an athlete instead of an athlete playing the game. I think he is going to be good for us.
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12-04-2024, 01:55 PM
#504

Originally Posted by
civildawg
Bump
Shit happens. No sense in paying his price for an unproven high school player who may or may not develop..a la John Lewis, Jonathan Davis, etc.
Eventually we need to get Jason Washington back in a recruiting capacity for us.
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12-04-2024, 01:57 PM
#505

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Things change. Hell last night he was solid. We all woke up this morning and he wasn't. Welcome to recruiting. Chris Jones was signing with OM until the night before.
It's amazing how much this happens to us
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12-04-2024, 02:01 PM
#506

Originally Posted by
civildawg
It's amazing how much this happens to us
OM plays the game better. That simple. They've been organized since Vaught and never wavered. They also hit the biggest stroke of luck they ever hit when they hired Eddy O. He was a terrible HC there, but he showed them how to recruit in the new age of college football. He taught them the tricks. They kept those with them through Nutt and Freeze. And when Kiffin got there and it was legal, it was full steam ahead.
We've been semi organized since Jackie, fell apart under Croom, got really organized under Dan, and then Cohen killed it with letting his baseball boosters run everything and influence the decisions. So we're back to getting things organized again in a world where paying players is not only legal, it's encouraged.
Last edited by StarkVegasSteve; 12-04-2024 at 02:11 PM.
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12-04-2024, 02:14 PM
#507
If Lockhart signs great.
If not, take his money and go get two veterans out of the portal that can help you immediately. We need help all over the field for 2025, and Lockhart, while he may be great in the future, is not an impact guy in 2025.
It's not the end of the world.
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12-04-2024, 02:15 PM
#508

Originally Posted by
confucius say
If Lockhart signs great.
If not, take his money and go get two veterans out of the portal that can help you immediately.
It's not the end of the world.
Taylor was the big prize.
That's the way to look at it. Also, would expect staff changes to be announced in the coming days.
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12-04-2024, 02:17 PM
#509

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
That's the way to look at it. Also, would expect staff changes to be announced in the coming days.
Any rumors on who?
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12-04-2024, 02:19 PM
#510

Originally Posted by
Brobi-wan
Any rumors on who?
I've heard names but not enough confidence to say one way or the other. If you just strictly wanted a guess, I would say Barnes and Turner are gone. Kennedy also may be moving on.
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12-04-2024, 02:20 PM
#511

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
OM plays the game better. That simple. They've been organized since Vaught and never wavered. They also hit the biggest stroke of luck they ever hit when they hired Eddy O. He was a terrible HC there, but he showed them how to recruit in the new age of college football. He taught them the tricks. They kept those with them through Nutt and Freeze. And when Kiffin got there and it was legal, it was full steam ahead.
We've been semi organized since Jackie, fell apart under Croom, got really organized under Dan, and then Cohen killed it with letting his baseball boosters run everything and influence the decisions. So we're back to getting things organized again in a world where paying players is not only legal, it's encouraged.
Cam Newton woke up some of my buddies out of the Croom era, and back into semi organizing back then.
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12-04-2024, 02:23 PM
#512

Originally Posted by
confucius say
If Lockhart signs great.
If not, take his money and go get two veterans out of the portal that can help you immediately. We need help all over the field for 2025, and Lockhart, while he may be great in the future, is not an impact guy in 2025.
It's not the end of the world.

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
I've heard names but not enough confidence to say one way or the other. If you just strictly wanted a guess, I would say Barnes and Turner are gone. Kennedy also may be moving on.
Good. Turner and Kennedy need to go ASAP
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12-04-2024, 02:25 PM
#513

Originally Posted by
StateDawg44
Good. Turner and Kennedy need to go ASAP
Turner more so than the other. We could’ve stood folding chairs out there in most games other than the last one and had better luck. Maybe someone would’ve tripped.
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12-04-2024, 02:29 PM
#514

Originally Posted by
Brobi-wan
Turner more so than the other. We could’ve stood folding chairs out there in most games other than the last one and had better luck. Maybe someone would’ve tripped.
Like I have said, David Turner was a really good coach in the early and mid 2000s. Unfortunately by the time his second stint came around in 2013, he was past his prime. Then our buddy buddy boosters decided they needed to bring him back again because he recruited Jeff and coached Chris Jones. Both lies. The heavy lifting on Jeff was done by Tony Hughes and Dan. And Chris had flashes at State but was not the Chris Jones of today until he got to the NFL.
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12-04-2024, 02:32 PM
#515

Originally Posted by
StateDawg44
Good. Turner and Kennedy need to go ASAP
Kennedy recruited pretty well for us and many thought UM had flipped Miles, Kennedy said hold my beer
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12-04-2024, 02:34 PM
#516

Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
Kennedy recruited pretty well for us and many thought UM had flipped Miles, Kennedy said hold my beer
Cody recruited good this cycle and I think he will have some hits in the portal. My thinking of him leaving is solely based on Lebby wanting to bring in Clements.
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12-04-2024, 02:36 PM
#517

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Cody recruited good this cycle and I think he will have some hits in the portal. My thinking of him leaving is solely based on Lebby wanting to bring in Clements.
Yeah, I can see that.
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12-04-2024, 02:36 PM
#518

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Cody recruited good this cycle and I think he will have some hits in the portal. My thinking of him leaving is solely based on Lebby wanting to bring in Clements.
He can bring on Randy as an analyst. He's well versed in the offense.
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12-04-2024, 02:39 PM
#519
Lockhart to OM. A loss no matter how you look at it. Whether it is a big loss remains to be seen. I imagine this frees up two additional spots because the older Lockhart and Clark will be transferring out of all likelihood.
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12-04-2024, 02:42 PM
#520

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Lockhart to OM. A loss no matter how you look at it. Whether it is a big loss remains to be seen. I imagine this frees up two additional spots because the older Lockhart and Clark will be transferring out of all likelihood.
I'm curious to see if that ended up being the issue. Were we looking to process those two out anyway?
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