Arbuckle to OU as OC

[Santiago]

Interesting hire there.
Assuming his qb from Wazzou comes with him, and Arnold might be looking elsewhere?

But also.... what type of offense does Arbuckle run?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Interesting hire there.
Assuming his qb from Wazzou comes with him, and Arnold might be looking elsewhere?

But also.... what type of offense does Arbuckle run?

Air Raid. Comes from the Leach tree by way of Zach Kittley. And as I have been saying for the better part of 2 months, Jackson Arnold is transferring and he's transferring here. Lebby and staff have been in touch with Jackson and his father since after he got benched against Tennessee, which was the same day Shapen went down.

[bigbub50]

Air Raid. Comes from the Leach tree by way of Zach Kittley. And as I have been saying for the better part of 2 months, Jackson Arnold is transferring and he's transferring here. Lebby and staff have been in touch with Jackson and his father since after he got benched against Tennessee, which was the same day Shapen went down.

If Arnold comes here, that a crowded qb room for 3 guys expecting to start.

[DLGDawg]

And as I have been saying for the better part of 2 months, Jackson Arnold is transferring and he's transferring here. Lebby and staff have been in touch with Jackson and his father since after he got benched against Tennessee, which was the same day Shapen went down.

How quickly you think this happens after the portal opens?

[Brobi-wan]

If Arnold comes here, that a crowded qb room for 3 guys expecting to start.

I imagine Arnold starts and Shapen either moves on when Arnold announces his commitment or stays to be quality depth. I like MVB, but he may not ever start if we get Arnold and Taylor

[StarkVegasSteve]

How quickly you think this happens after the portal opens?

Fully expect it this week. He's going to know where he goes the second the portal opens. Auburn is trying to muddy the waters, as they are with every QB, so it may not be an immediate commit but it will come shortly.

As for MVB, as of now I expect he stays and battles with Kamario in 26. That was always the plan so I don't know how this changes anything.

[Santiago]

Air Raid. Comes from the Leach tree by way of Zach Kittley. And as I have been saying for the better part of 2 months, Jackson Arnold is transferring and he's transferring here. Lebby and staff have been in touch with Jackson and his father since after he got benched against Tennessee, which was the same day Shapen went down.

It won't work in the SEC ***

[Really Clark?]

If Arnold comes here, that a crowded qb room for 3 guys expecting to start.

There won't be 3 expected starters in the QB room

[StarkVegasSteve]

There won't be 3 expected starters in the QB room

So the plan I was told, and take it with a grain of salt because it was a month ago, was that we were bringing in Arnold. At that point, and this conversation has already happened if I had to guess, we would have talked to Van Buren to get his thoughts. If he was leaning towards leaving then we would bring Shapen back as an insurance policy. If Van Buren stayed and decided to battle Taylor for the job in 26, which was the plan when we signed him, then we would help Shapen get the extra year and find a transfer destination for him.

[DLGDawg]

Fully expect it this week. He's going to know where he goes the second the portal opens. Auburn is trying to muddy the waters, as they are with every QB, so it may not be an immediate commit but it will come shortly.

As for MVB, as of now I expect he stays and battles with Kamario in 26. That was always the plan so I don't know how this changes anything.

If Arnold comes, IMO that puts our QB room in a better position to give younger talent time to develop. If QB 1 goes the year without injuries, redshirt both younger QB's and let them battle it out in 2026.

[KB21]

So the plan I was told, and take it with a grain of salt because it was a month ago, was that we were bringing in Arnold. At that point, and this conversation has already happened if I had to guess, we would have talked to Van Buren to get his thoughts. If he was leaning towards leaving then we would bring Shapen back as an insurance policy. If Van Buren stayed and decided to battle Taylor for the job in 26, which was the plan when we signed him, then we would help Shapen get the extra year and find a transfer destination for him.

I'm not convinced that Jackson Arnold will beat out MVB anyway. Jackson really struggled this year. A lot of that had to do with Littrell as the OC and not Lebby, but his decision-making process was very slow. MVB throws a much better downfield ball than Arnold did this year.

[StarkVegasSteve]

If Arnold comes, IMO that puts our QB room in a better position to give younger talent time to develop. If QB 1 goes the year without injuries, redshirt both younger QB's and let them battle it out in 2026.

Which was the damn plan when we recruited Van Buren. We were always going to bring in a QB this year. It was just a matter of if we were bringing in one to replace Shapen or replace Parson. Basically, bringing in a starter or bringing in a backup.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I'm not convinced that Jackson Arnold will beat out MVB anyway. Jackson really struggled this year. A lot of that had to do with Littrell as the OC and not Lebby, but his decision-making process was very slow. MVB throws a much better downfield ball than Arnold did this year.

He does throw a better deep ball than Jackson. But Jackson is better in the pocket, better with ball control, and honestly he is better running this offense. His decision making process was slow because Litrell was trying to make him something he is not with no receivers. Once Litrell was fired, they decided to become run heavy because they had no receivers but had good RBs and a line who could run block.

[Really Clark?]

So the plan I was told, and take it with a grain of salt because it was a month ago, was that we were bringing in Arnold. At that point, and this conversation has already happened if I had to guess, we would have talked to Van Buren to get his thoughts. If he was leaning towards leaving then we would bring Shapen back as an insurance policy. If Van Buren stayed and decided to battle Taylor for the job in 26, which was the plan when we signed him, then we would help Shapen get the extra year and find a transfer destination for him.

That's pretty much exactly what I was informed as well. Arnold is the only expected starter, if that comes to fruition like expected. MVB and Taylor fight it out for 2026 starting QB. I will say that I have not heard of us really going after any other impact QB's besides Arnold. So we feel very good about him or we will allocate that money elsewhere if we don't get him and run with the QB's we have, it sounds like.

[StarkVegasSteve]

That's pretty much exactly what I was informed as well. Arnold is the only expected starter, if that comes to fruition like expected. MVB and Taylor fight it out for 2026 starting QB. I will say that I have not heard of us really going after any other impact QB's besides Arnold. So we feel very good about him or we will allocate that money elsewhere if we don't get him and run with the QB's we have, it sounds like.

If we do not get Arnold then we are allocating that money elsewhere and will bring in a G5 guy to be the backup in case Van Buren goes down. We do not need another true Freshman QB starting SEC games.

[Really Clark?]

If we do not get Arnold then we are allocating that money elsewhere and will bring in a G5 guy to be the backup in case Van Buren goes down. We do not need another true Freshman QB starting SEC games.

Right and/or keep Shapen on the cheap.

[Coursesuper]

Fully expect it this week. He's going to know where he goes the second the portal opens. Auburn is trying to muddy the waters, as they are with every QB, so it may not be an immediate commit but it will come shortly.

As for MVB, as of now I expect he stays and battles with Kamario in 26. That was always the plan so I don't know how this changes anything.

MVB is asking for a large NIL deal. So we shall see.

[StarkVegasSteve]

MVB is asking for a large NIL deal. So we shall see.

There's a song by Ray Charles that comes to mind for this situation.

[Matt3467]

If we do not get Arnold then we are allocating that money elsewhere and will bring in a G5 guy to be the backup in case Van Buren goes down. We do not need another true Freshman QB starting SEC games.

There's really no other guys we'd be interested in outside of Arnold? That's fine if we hold on to Shapen. I think Shapen has the tools to be one of the better QBs in the country if he can stay healthy and the line can protect.

[Matt3467]

MVB is asking for a large NIL deal. So we shall see.

Probably has a good bit to do with the reverend in his ear. Or at least I've heard AU wants him. Wouldn't surprise me anyway since they just lost two of their QBs to the portal.