Hartfield vS Prep tonight for all the marbles

[SilentSteel16]

I hope that is not you MS making these posts. I have some close McComb connections with a couple being some of my best friends. And as a side note- I could still hit a Parklane pitcher pitch for A HR today. 7 of 29 lifetime HS HR's thanks to the shitty pitching from McComb

a town of no-talent ragarms

If MS are initials then NO.
So I guess that means you were a private school legend back when there really was a difference between public and private. Thanks for clearing that up.

Parklane had some good pitchers and not so good pitchers. I guess it depends on when you came through. But to say all pitchers from McComb are shitty is a broad over generalization, but again have to consider the source here.

[SilentSteel16]

I wish we?d offer Kenzi West. I don?t understand, if he?s equal to some kid from Texas or juco, why not take the local kid? Also the DT from Hartfield London Simmons. These are guys we used to get. He?s a 3 star committed to Alabama with offers from LSU, Florida State, and Arkansas. But we haven?t offered. They also have Reggie Vaughn another DT committed to Arkansas. On top of that you have one of the top players in the nation as a junior in Braylon Womack. Assuming how little we?ve recruited Hartfield, have no shot at him.

Simmons is NOT the defensive lineman you want. I have watched numerous games even against lesser competition for him. Unless something drastically changes with him and effort, he won’t be at Al long.

Vaughn is a class act and wonderful young man and an absolute Dawg on the field. Hope nothing but the best for him and many contracts in his future.

Womack is rumored to be heading to IMG next year.

BUT I was told there are no athletes on private school teams and they couldn’t compete with East Webster, No county, Choctaw Cent or County or any public school for that matter. Hmmm

[StarkVegasSteve]

Simmons is NOT the defensive lineman you want. I have watched numerous games even against lesser competition for him. Unless something drastically changes with him and effort, he won’t be at Al long.

Vaughn is a class act and wonderful young man and an absolute Dawg on the field. Hope nothing but the best for him and many contracts in his future.

Womack is rumored to be heading to IMG next year.

BUT I was told there are no athletes on private school teams and they couldn’t compete with East Webster, No county, Choctaw Cent or County or any public school for that matter. Hmmm

Oh they can compete. Like I said, top end talent they are close. I mean Cunningham and Taylor are the two best players in the state so they do not have that, but they have solid players. Heath recruited a hell of a team. Depth would be their issue against a public school and that’s when I think the public school team would pull away. If it was just a run of the mill 3A public school or a rebuilding team in a higher level I think they win. Obviously there will always be outlier private school teams(Greenville Christian in 21), but I do not believe a private school team would have an answer for Taylor.

[SilentSteel16]

You said early they would be run off the field by those teams now it is they would compete. Yes Taylor is a great player and Cunningham is as well, BUT they would not beat Hartfield, Prep or MRA. It is not even a debate. Give it a rest. One player can be taken out of the equation by coaching. I would dare say that Prep,MRA and Hartfield would “compete” as you say better against Brandon, Tupelo or any other major 6A/7A powers than any team you mentioned.

[StarkVegasSteve]

You said early they would be run off the field by those teams now it is they would compete. Yes Taylor is a great player and Cunningham is as well, BUT they would not beat Hartfield, Prep or MRA. It is not even a debate. Give it a rest. One player can be taken out of the equation by coaching. I would dare say that Prep,MRA and Hartfield would “compete” as you say better against Brandon, Tupelo or any other major 6A/7A powers than any team you mentioned.

They would not. But hey, why don't they just schedule them? Weird they have never done that. I'm sure Tupelo would happily play them. Or Brandon. Heck. Noxubee would play anyone. The thing I liked about that Greenville Christian team a few years ago is that they literally didn't care. They wanted to play anyone. Travelled down to Oak Grove to play and travelled to Collins Hill to play Travis Hunter. They didn't care. Then of course Prep, JA, and MRA got their panties in a wad because Greenville Christian waxed all of them and started calling them out for doing THE EXACT THING they had done for decades.

[SilentSteel16]

Sorry you are right. I should have stuck with my original teams. I was trying to call out the Jackson private schools for how they have brought up talent.I got caught up in different conversations. I do still think Choctaw Central would run away from those teams and to me it would come down to depth and they have no one who can guard Cunningham. Like I said, I think the top end talent at those schools is the same and against a team like Choctaw I would probably give the nod to a Hartfield, but I think depth would win out. Also, man I would love to see Davis? offense turned loose with Kamario Taylor at QB. They would be hell on wheels.

I just read this argument from you

Cunningham and Choctaw County???? The same Choctaw County that this year lost to Parklane Academy??? Parklane Academy also played Prep and MRA. Care to guess what team got blown out by both??

You defeated your own argument. Wow, bad take and really bad comparison. I guess Parklane did not get ?out athleted” by Choctaw County and Cunningham

[StarkVegasSteve]

I just read this argument from you

Cunningham and Choctaw County???? The same Choctaw County that this year lost to Parklane Academy??? Parklane Academy also played Prep and MRA. Care to guess what team got blown out by both??

You defeated your own argument. Wow, bad take and really bad comparison. I guess Parklane did not get ?out athleted” by Choctaw County and Cunningham

I still can't figure that one out. I have went back and watched it 3 times and it is incredible. Parklane had no one who could guard him and Choctaw just refused to just throw go routes. They were trying to run their offense instead of out athlete a private school team. I don't know if it was that Parklane had played twice and it was Choctaw's first game or what but I mean no part of that game makes sense. Go back and watch it.

[SilentSteel16]

I don’t need to go back and watch it. I know the quality that those 3 schools put on the field by FAR at EVERY position outclassed Parklane. And the fact that Parklane was not run of the field but indeed did BEAT Choctaw County just deepens the fact that your argument is INVALID.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I don’t need to go back and watch it. I know the quality that those 3 schools put on the field by FAR at EVERY position outclassed Parklane. And the fact that Parklane was not run of the field but indeed did BEAT Choctaw County just deepens the fact that your argument is INVALID.

Ok cool. I've learned with other topics on this board that you think you're right and everyone else is wrong and I don't really care to keep having it. When Prep or Hartfield decides they want to play a schedule that doesn't include Copiah, Adams County Christian, Pillow, Simpson, and Oak Forest I will respect them and pay attention. Until then, I could honestly care less. I'm still going to think competition is not on the same level. Also, Shane is screwing up private schools so bad at this point I imagine most will be playing in the MHSAA within 5 years anyways.

[SilentSteel16]

You meant … you could honestly NOT care less…. Have a good day

[Coach34]

If MS are initials then NO.
So I guess that means you were a private school legend back when there really was a difference between public and private. Thanks for clearing that up.

6 of our guys on my HS team played college baseball- including one in the SEC and one D-II All-American. We were as good as anybody in the state

edited to add- The Jackson private schools have always been as good as public schools

[SilentSteel16]

All I know is, we played and beat Parklane in the offseason and they would win state championships and we would not make the playoffs in 4A. And we had 2 guys on our team that have World Series rings. Plus we had 3 play college ball. One of those with the rings went straight pro out of college (this was my class only) not counting the guys graduating a year before or after my year.

[confucius say]

Ok cool. I've learned with other topics on this board that you think you're right and everyone else is wrong and I don't really care to keep having it. When Prep or Hartfield decides they want to play a schedule that doesn't include Copiah, Adams County Christian, Pillow, Simpson, and Oak Forest I will respect them and pay attention. Until then, I could honestly care less. I'm still going to think competition is not on the same level. Also, Shane is screwing up private schools so bad at this point I imagine most will be playing in the MHSAA within 5 years anyways.

I use to think like you until I started watching them.
MRA beat Oak grove by 43 points this year. The same oak grove that was playing in the 7A quarterfinals Friday. 43 points. And that was with a running clock. It could have been 60 if they wanted to.
Hartfield and prep and mra can compete (would win some and lose some) with anybody in the state.

Mra played Oak grove, Pulaski (ranked 4 in Arkansas public or private), prep (lost handily), Hartfield (won by 9), and JA (won by like 10). That's tougher than most public schools. Hartfield definitely needs to schedule better, no argument there.

[SilentSteel16]

6 of our guys on my HS team played college baseball- including one in the SEC and one D-II All-American. We were as good as anybody in the state

edited to add- The Jackson private schools have always been as good as public schools

34 you will get no argument from me on public vs private baseball even 20-30 years ago. I would dare say private now is better than public competition wise. Also Hillcrest was probably best of the bunch and it doesn’t exist anymore.

However the old mantra from those same 20-30 years ago in regards to football is not valid anymore, which is what this thread turned into. Those big 3 private schools can and will compete with anyone in the state.

The argument that was said about not enough athletes is just laughable.

[viverlibre]

Hartfield did if for the glory of God.

[SteelCurtain74]

Ok cool. I've learned with other topics on this board that you think you're right and everyone else is wrong and I don't really care to keep having it. When Prep or Hartfield decides they want to play a schedule that doesn't include Copiah, Adams County Christian, Pillow, Simpson, and Oak Forest I will respect them and pay attention. Until then, I could honestly care less. I'm still going to think competition is not on the same level. Also, Shane is screwing up private schools so bad at this point I imagine most will be playing in the MHSAA within 5 years anyways.

My understanding is that Shane Blanton resigned as MAIS executive director a little over a week ago.

[StarkVegasSteve]

My understanding is that Shane Blanton resigned as MAIS executive director a little over a week ago.

Damn.....haven't spoken to anyone on it. I like Shane as a person but he had the MAIS headed down a road that was turning some schools off

[Coach34]

All I know is, we played and beat Parklane in the offseason and they would win state championships and we would not make the playoffs in 4A. And we had 2 guys on our team that have World Series rings. Plus we had 3 play college ball. One of those with the rings went straight pro out of college (this was my class only) not counting the guys graduating a year before or after my year.

Parklane was never very good in baseball. Their titles came in football. Also, many public school people dont usually take into account or even think about the fact that Parklane in MHSAA would have been a 2A school. So in 2A- they would have been a solid club.

And I was just giving ya some shit about McComb. Know alot of good guys from there. That damn town put out some great talent in the 80's.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

I keep seeing that no private school could handle Kamario Taylor. MRA beat a high school senior quarterback named Shedeur Sanders. He’s now a Heisman candidate and potentially the top quarterback taken in the NFL draft.

[Pancho]

good comparison although KT is a lil better at this stage than sanders was