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09-27-2024, 07:13 PM
#101

Originally Posted by
DEDawg
This is just rambling.
To you ... maybe so.
The Roman elites understood the "mob" to a tee.
Same as today.
The elites understand how to get the "mob" to keep paying them even when their policies were causing Rome to crash and burn.
The "mob" will break themselves financially for "bread" and "circuses".
And the "mob" will keep buying the narratives about why it is so.
Sooner or later ... it all comes crashing down.
Last edited by dawgday166; 09-27-2024 at 07:17 PM.
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09-28-2024, 07:45 AM
#102
very true of the society today
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09-28-2024, 08:06 AM
#103

Originally Posted by
War Machine Dawg
Classy. We could have a real discussion about the food supply in the US largely being poison, leading to obesity. We could talk about things like seed oils, inability to afford healthy food unless you're making 6 figures, how the food pyramid is garbage, or any number of other factors. But you would rather say that people struggling to buy staples like beef and eggs are fat asses who need to eat less and pay athletic mercenaries money they already don't have when their dollar is buying less than ever. Enjoy that superiority complex. Ignorance really is bliss, in your case.
Some of what you say is true. A lot of it isn?t. Weight loss and gain is largely calories in and calories out. Literally not possible to gain weight without excess. You know how those of us who like to eat clean avoid the preservatives and poison? Meal prep and cook our own food. Crazy thing is, I meal prep every week. I eat pork, beef, eggs, chicken and all the protein and nutrients I need while frying none of it, making 90% of it myself, and I don?t have the problem of obesity. Here?s the thing, obesity is classified as 25% body fat % and up for men. If a quarter of your mass is fat, yes you need to eat less. It?s literally that simple. Put down little Debby and cook a real meal, get out of the fast food line etc.
And as far as why everything is so hard to pay for, dude these people bitching about being poor still have iPhones, still pay for subscriptions to watch tv, still have Amazon prime, still have Apple Music/Spotify. For a lot of people, the difference between comfort and paycheck to paycheck is building a decent budget. The reason my grandparents were able to build wealth is partly because they were the last generation not buying all the things some of us do yearly. I?ve got friends who can?t afford houses but build 1500 dollar gaming PCs and bitch about how expensive things are. Forgive my lack of sympathy for a world with no self control. All you?ve been doing lately is complaining about NIL. It?s not a tax, dude. Nobody is making you pay it. There?s nothing wrong with the people who want to give, giving. Your point has been made. Give the dead horse a rest.
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09-28-2024, 08:13 AM
#104
maybe you both are kinda saying the same thing, just different
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09-28-2024, 09:12 AM
#105
I bought Noodle a beer last year. But he wanted a seltzer, so I pulled my offer.*
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09-28-2024, 01:11 PM
#106
Senior Member
A question i have is in regards to how many wins are needed each year for our fans to be happy? We called it mediocrity to accept 8 wins per season, would we now be satisfied with this? How many wins would a 10 mil nil football budget get us and would we be satisfied? I honestly can't envision a scenario where we could legitimately expect to be in the running for a football NC in the current environment. I can see it as a legitimate possibility in baseball and basketball though.
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09-28-2024, 01:18 PM
#107

Originally Posted by
Bamboo
A question i have is in regards to how many wins are needed each year for our fans to be happy? We called it mediocrity to accept 8 wins per season, would we now be satisfied with this? How many wins would a 10 mil nil football budget get us and would we be satisfied? I honestly can't envision a scenario where we could legitimately expect to be in the running for a football NC in the current environment. I can see it as a legitimate possibility in baseball and basketball though.
To me if we spend $10M and every 3-4 years we make the playoffs (remember it?s just top 12 now) and the other years regularly are in and out of top 25 getting 8 wins and decent bowl games I?m ecstatic.
Remember to get to $10M us normal fans only need to donate sub $500 a year. I love this university so much that?s nothing for the amount of job being good at football brings me.
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09-28-2024, 01:25 PM
#108
Senior Member

Originally Posted by
DEDawg
To me if we spend $10M and every 3-4 years we make the playoffs (remember it?s just top 12 now) and the other years regularly are in and out of top 25 getting 8 wins and decent bowl games I?m ecstatic.
I'd be fine with this as well. The players are only going to increase though until they implement some sort of cap.
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09-28-2024, 01:45 PM
#109

Originally Posted by
Bamboo
I'd be fine with this as well. The players are only going to increase though until they implement some sort of cap.
It?s one of the most free market economical situations I can think of so I think it will stabilize pretty quickly. The market will dictate a top end
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09-28-2024, 01:49 PM
#110

Originally Posted by
DEDawg
To me if we spend $10M and every 3-4 years we make the playoffs (remember it?s just top 12 now) and the other years regularly are in and out of top 25 getting 8 wins and decent bowl games I?m ecstatic.
Remember to get to $10M us normal fans only need to donate sub $500 a year. I love this university so much that?s nothing for the amount of job being good at football brings me.
10 mil a year to be competitive in a college football game.
Jesus christ. Our fans have lost their minds. In what realm is that sustainable, and if it is sustainable... 10 mil a year could be better utilized elsewhere not to pay privileged players that hop in the portal first sign of adversity.
EDIT: You're talking 10 million from OUTSIDE the university. I'm fine if the league/university is footing the bill.
Last edited by MBDawg601; 09-29-2024 at 09:06 PM.
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09-28-2024, 01:57 PM
#111
In case some of you guys missed it, in the first quarter of the UK/OM game the announcers were saying how the big college teams are hiring NFL guys with experience managing player rosters. It's now more like the NFL than college.
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09-28-2024, 02:43 PM
#112

Originally Posted by
MBDawg601
10 mil a year to be competitive in a college football game.
Jesus christ. Our fans have lost their minds. In what realm is that sustainable, and if it is sustainable... 10 mil a year could be better utilized elsewhere not to pay privileged players that hop in the portal first sign of diversity.
EDIT: You're talking 10 million from OUTSIDE the university. I'm fine if the league/university is footing the bill.
Your mind is made up already and that?s fine but youve clearly missed the point here
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09-28-2024, 02:49 PM
#113

Originally Posted by
DEDawg
Your mind is made up already and that?s fine but youve clearly missed the point here
You said you were fine with 10-12 mil making the playoff once every 4 years. And being in the top 25 year in and year out.
Not much more to what you said. Still ridiculous. No-one should be okay with taking that much money out of the economy and into the pockets of teenagers to "possibly" win a couple of games.
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09-28-2024, 02:56 PM
#114
Something we both can agree on is how entertaining Ole Miss forums are right now after they DID spend 12+ mil on a team.
My day is made.
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09-28-2024, 02:58 PM
#115

Originally Posted by
MBDawg601
You said you were fine with 10-12 mil making the playoff once every 4 years. And being in the top 25 year in and year out.
Not much more to what you said. Still ridiculous. No-one should be okay with taking that much money out of the economy and into the pockets of teenagers to "possibly" win a couple of games.
Ha, you think those kids are putting that cash under their mattress? I would bet 60% of that money goes directly to local car dealerships, jewelers, restaurants, and the cotton district. A good part is also going back to mommas at home. I can promise you it is not getting taken out of the economy
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09-28-2024, 03:03 PM
#116
Senior Member

Originally Posted by
MBDawg601
You said you were fine with 10-12 mil making the playoff once every 4 years. And being in the top 25 year in and year out.
This is the reason for my question. If we spend 10mil a year on football but only get 8/9 wins, will the fans be happy? It's a lot of money to not have a realistic shot at an NC. Perhaps we spend 7 mil on Football to get yearly bowl games then put the rest into baseball and basketball for a legit NC chance.
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09-28-2024, 03:06 PM
#117
Senior Member

Originally Posted by
MBDawg601
Something we both can agree on is how entertaining Ole Miss forums are right now after they DID spend 12+ mil on a team.
My day is made.
I hate to admit that it has helped my mood today.
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09-28-2024, 03:09 PM
#118

Originally Posted by
MBDawg601
Something we both can agree on is how entertaining Ole Miss forums are right now after they DID spend 12+ mil on a team.
My day is made.
Its truly a great day
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09-28-2024, 05:01 PM
#119

Originally Posted by
War Machine Dawg
Food prices are up 20-30%. Normal people are running up credit card debt just to buy beef and eggs. But let's ask them to pay an extra $40 a month so our university can pay 17-22 year old mercenaries to play football. Why didn't anyone else come up with that brilliant solution? Genius, you are.
6000 people isn?t everyone. Shit, our stadium holds 60k. Also, times are always tough on people that can?t afford things. Today is no different than 5-10-25 years ago.
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09-28-2024, 06:29 PM
#120

Originally Posted by
MBDawg601
10 mil a year to be competitive in a college football game.
Jesus christ. Our fans have lost their minds. In what realm is that sustainable, and if it is sustainable... 10 mil a year could be better utilized elsewhere not to pay privileged players that hop in the portal first sign of diversity.
EDIT: You're talking 10 million from OUTSIDE the university. I'm fine if the league/university is footing the bill.
Yep too many have lost their minds.
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