Quote Originally Posted by memsu06 View Post
Teams with way less NIL than us are looking more prepared and their players play harder than ours do.

I think it's as much of the coaching as it is the players we have.

We've done a horrible job of promoting MSU football as well.

There have to be some locker room issues we aren't hearing about and if that's the case I hope we're doing something about it.
Agree on all points. No one is going to convince me Toledo has more talent (41-17 worth) than MSU in any time. Has Toledo ever out recruited us? I bet not. It ain't about talent right now. Playing TX UGA UT, sure it is but not ASU or Toledo.

With players quitting and getting run off and the apathy that appears to be with some, there are some player issues and coaching as well.