What are our realistic expectations

[CaptainObvious]

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[BrunswickDawg]

Barring Napier rolling off 9-10 wins, they are going to fire him. Florida fans, along with Auburn, are the most irrational fan bases BY A MILE. They continue to compare themselves to Bama when they're not. They're both on coach number 5 since Saban arrived in Tuscaloosa and have 1 national championship and another appearance between the two programs with ZERO playoff appearances and two NY6 bowls.

They'll fire Napier because that's what they do. Napier isn't the problem, just like Dan wasn't the problem. The problem is boosters, fans, Foley, and Spurrier. The last two have FAR too much influence and the opinions of the first two matter FAR more than they should.

While I don't disagree with your points - I do have to note that while Auburn and UF are on coach #5 since Saban - we are on coach #6.

[StarkVegasSteve]

While I don't disagree with your points - I do have to note that while Auburn and UF are on coach #5 since Saban - we are on coach #6.

Not wrong. Although Leach's passing caused us to panic hire Arnett and then we had to fire him so that's 2 addt HCs to our number.I actually did some digging and the numbers are insane. Just the amount of coaches every school has had since Saban got to Bama

Arky-6
Auburn-5
LSU-3
OM-5
State-6
A&M(didn't join til 2012 so starting there)-3
Georgia-2
Florida-5
Tennessee-6
Mizzou(didn't join until 2012 so starting there)-3
Vandy-5
USCe-3
Kentucky-3

[confucius say]

Not wrong. Although Leach's passing caused us to panic hire Arnett and then we had to fire him so that's 2 addt HCs to our number.I actually did some digging and the numbers are insane. Just the amount of coaches every school has had since Saban got to Bama

Arky-6
Auburn-5
LSU-3
OM-5
State-6
A&M(didn't join til 2012 so starting there)-3
Georgia-2
Florida-5
Tennessee-6
Mizzou(didn't join until 2012 so starting there)-3
Vandy-5
USCe-3
Kentucky-3

Think we are the only P4 team with 5 coaches in last 8 seasons. It's a wonder we've only missed 1 bowl game in that time (2024 tbd)

[StarkVegasSteve]

Think we are the only P4 team with 5 coaches in last 8 seasons. It's a wonder we've only missed 1 bowl game in that time (2024 tbd)

We've mostly been lucky though. I mean 2020 would've been a missed bowl but everyone made a bowl that played that year. We also have had coaches leave with pretty good pieces. I mean Mullen left Moorhead a stacked D. Moorhead left Leach some pretty good skill players and Leach left Arnett some pretty good skill players, that he misused or didn't use. This year is the first time I can remember basically having a completely new cast of unknown players.

[Todd4State]

We've mostly been lucky though. I mean 2020 would've been a missed bowl but everyone made a bowl that played that year. We also have had coaches leave with pretty good pieces. I mean Mullen left Moorhead a stacked D. Moorhead left Leach some pretty good skill players and Leach left Arnett some pretty good skill players, that he misused or didn't use. This year is the first time I can remember basically having a completely new cast of unknown players.

For some reason MSU likes to hire coaches that like to the complete opposite of whatever the last coach did.

And as a result the team that was built by the previous coach never fits what the new coach wants to do. That's just a recipe for disaster.

Like we went from Air Raid to Iowa with some random jet sweeps with Air Raid personnel in one offseason.

I'm actually glad that Lebby purged the team and got his own players in. It may not work out much better- we'll see. But I bet it's a lot more cohesive on offense this year than most year ones.