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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Tonight is what we want. We have a chance to get to 2-0 in the Regional- putting us among the final 32 in the field. We have our most talented (not most skilled or reliable tho) pitcher on the hill. This is why we do this- games like tonight
Right and like I said it's Christmas time for me! Watching all day yesterday and today and been some truly great games! Love college baseball
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Originally Posted by
Santiago
The only thing I have really been vocal about in baseball is the argument that we should tamper expectations based on the last 20 years. I think that is BS, and as a person that also played some baseball, you start every season wanting to win every game, including the last. I hated losing, and never did I think ...."well my school historically is not this good, so we are doing alright".
That is the only thing that has been irritating.
I agree with most of this. But, as one of the folks who has said "tamper expectations" - my argument was not about our history, it was about what is going on with MiLB and the make up of college rosters. You even allude to it in your other post in this thread about not being an SEc homer and watching what is going on around the country. The game is getting deeper in talent all around, and so we have to change our mindsets about the whole "we're MSU and shouldn't lose to so and so". Doesn't mean I don't want to beat those teams or don't have expectations for us to beat them - we just have to recognize there are fewer and fewer auto wins on the board then even 5 years ago.
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Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
Right and like I said it's Christmas time for me! Watching all day yesterday and today and been some truly great games! Love college baseball
I watch them while I’m hitting cardio on the treadmill after my lift. Makes the treadmill almost bearable lol
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Originally Posted by
Brobi-wan
I watch them while I’m hitting cardio on the treadmill after my lift. Makes the treadmill almost bearable lol
lol you sound like me; although I'm to old to lift anymore, bad shoulders, elbow and knees from to many bang up playing as a younger man, so I have to do band work instead, yeah I've gotten soft lol!
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
I agree with most of this. But, as one of the folks who has said "tamper expectations" - my argument was not about our history, it was about what is going on with MiLB and the make up of college rosters. You even allude to it in your other post in this thread about not being an SEc homer and watching what is going on around the country. The game is getting deeper in talent all around, and so we have to change our mindsets about the whole "we're MSU and shouldn't lose to so and so". Doesn't mean I don't want to beat those teams or don't have expectations for us to beat them - we just have to recognize there are fewer and fewer auto wins on the board then even 5 years ago.
This is correct. Everyone has pitchers who throw
Mid 90s now and guys that can rake. Heck go watch a juco game and theirs flamethrowers and bangers there too. Trickle down from minors and reduced draft rounds. Different era now, it's not the 80s and 90s where we could stockpile talent. Also with nil you now have to take a year to year approach as opposed to developing players.
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
I agree with most of this. But, as one of the folks who has said "tamper expectations" - my argument was not about our history, it was about what is going on with MiLB and the make up of college rosters. You even allude to it in your other post in this thread about not being an SEc homer and watching what is going on around the country. The game is getting deeper in talent all around, and so we have to change our mindsets about the whole "we're MSU and shouldn't lose to so and so". Doesn't mean I don't want to beat those teams or don't have expectations for us to beat them - we just have to recognize there are fewer and fewer auto wins on the board then even 5 years ago.
I think you extended my simple comments to something further.
We are trending in the wrong direction though, and I don't see a HC for us that can evaluate and provide the charisma/attitude that gives us the advantage in recruiting baseball players. You cannot be CEO, in a college game that is the competitive.
I don't gripe when we lose competitive games. The past 3 seasons including this performance in the regional is what has me seeing enough.
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
I agree with most of this. But, as one of the folks who has said "tamper expectations" - my argument was not about our history, it was about what is going on with MiLB and the make up of college rosters. You even allude to it in your other post in this thread about not being an SEc homer and watching what is going on around the country. The game is getting deeper in talent all around, and so we have to change our mindsets about the whole "we're MSU and shouldn't lose to so and so". Doesn't mean I don't want to beat those teams or don't have expectations for us to beat them - we just have to recognize there are fewer and fewer auto wins on the board then even 5 years ago.
I disagree a little, but not completely. P5 is taking all the top lower level talent in the portal. Not many great players are slipping through the cracks anymore. Weve missed on every top target in the portal but have hit on a few lesser guys. Were failing to sign top guys in the portal and aren't recruiting well at the HS level AT ALL. The total lack of development is a major red flag.
Look at our catching situation. There's a failure in the portal. People complain about Larry but we didn't recruit over him. The biggest thing that hurts us in the portal is depth. No stick on the bench anymore and no options if someone struggles.
Last edited by Cooterpoot; 06-02-2024 at 10:17 AM.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
You have to be the guy that invented the phrase "almost intercepted"
There were some pick 6's today.
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Arkansas eliminated at home... without reaching the finals. oof
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