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    Interesting that DJ's absence didn't really hurt our defense.

    I just need a little more Murphy and a little less Jones.

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    Maybe Davis should be getting shark's mins.

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    We got a win. Let’s go beat Mizzou

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Maybe Davis should be getting shark's mins.
    No. Shak is significantly ahead of Davis from an analytics standpoint. But he played well tonight. Just need to continue with the 3 guard rotation.

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    This is the first game under Jans we played with dj. I think dj is a pretty valuable player, so probably a little underrated win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Maybe Davis should be getting shark's mins.
    Jans has to think upside/ceiling. I the upside is greater with Key playing more minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    This is the first game under Jans we played with dj. I think dj is a pretty valuable player, so probably a little underrated win.
    I like DJ but the analytics don't. Lowest rated player on the team.

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    Good win. Now got to go on the road and take what we have to have
    Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is

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    Good win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    I like DJ but the analytics don't. Lowest rated player on the team.
    Maybe so, but I don't know much about basketball analytics. Seems the only way they could keep up with em is my box scores, and I don't think DJ's value is on that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Good win. Now got to go on the road and take what we have to have
    Yep, if we can't win a road game against Missouri we might as well give up even trying.

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    Solid effort, good win. Now go get these wins we need to get over the next 8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    Yep, if we can't win a road game against Missouri we might as well give up even trying.
    Mizzou is 0-5 at home. That scares me to death haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    Murphy at the 3 could be a gamechanger for us
    Yes, getting him back helped alot and he played some at the 3 tonight. 10 points 4 rebounds, I'll take that. He's not the defender Jeffries is but he has more skill offensively.

    Jaquan Scott is on the bench too for a little more depth in case we need it being down 3 guys but yes, getting Murphy back was big

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Fort being out may not make this possible, but I'd like to see

    Davis
    Moore
    Hubbard
    Cam
    Tolu
    I like:

    Moore
    Hubbard
    Murphy
    Cam
    Tolu

    Bring Davis, Jones, Bell off the bench

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Maybe so, but I don't know much about basketball analytics. Seems the only way they could keep up with em is my box scores, and I don't think DJ's value is on that
    There's no maybe about it. It's a fact. And yes, analytics are based on numbers, lol.

    Now if DJ's minutes are all going to Jones, give me DJ back. But if Jans will continue to play Murphy at the 3, we have a higher ceiling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCMSTFAN View Post
    I like:

    Moore
    Hubbard
    Murphy
    Cam
    Tolu

    Bring Davis, Jones, Bell off the bench
    You nailed it. Perfect 8 man rotation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Mizzou is 0-5 at home. That scares me to death haha
    Damn you, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoreCowbell View Post
    Murphy has the body and play style that translates to modern NBA. If he keeps progressing he will be drafted by the time he leaves here
    Very good post and I agree...if he can stay healthy and play consistently he has a chance to put up some good numbers and turn some heads.. he is skilled, 6'10 long, can dribble, shoot and drive...glad we got him back especially offensively. If I'm Jans I'm starting him at the 3 and allowing him to play through some mistakes early in games, he needs the reps

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    There's no maybe about it. It's a fact. And yes, analytics are based on numbers, lol.

    Now if DJ's minutes are all going to Jones, give me DJ back. But if Jans will continue to play Murphy at the 3, we have a higher ceiling.
    I just don't get how you gauge individual players. You can compare a team's offense vs their opponents and their defense vs their opponents for metrics like kempom. Anybody can determine a player's offensive value by a box score, but how do you determine a player's defense without watching the games?

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