Bump got him one!

[confucius say]

Mullen won 64 games in his last 8 seasons after a 5-7 1st season rebuild. 64 divided by 8 = 8

Could Lebby average 7 wins? Probably. But it damn sure wont be any more than that. What we are saying is the road to 9 and 10 wins is going to be much tougher than it even was 5 years ago. College football is in a state of constant metamorphosis now.

No. He won 59 regular season games his last 8 years, 64 over 9 years, which is what the conversation was about. We were discussing whether 7-5/8-4 was possible anymore. Whether a bowl game is won or lost has nothing to do with that. And a lot of players and coaches don't even participate in bowl games. Irrelevant metric outside of playoff.

You say Lebby won't average any more than 7 wins?Is that some big statement? The debate started when I said Dan averaged 7.1-4.9 and that I see no reason that we can't be that going forward, and what was said by those on your side of the argument in response is that 7-5/8-4 was no longer doable, that we couldn't be what we've been in the past anymore due to the new era of cfb. The best sustained run we've ever had was Dan's 7.1-4.9 run. That's doable. And our past as a whole is worse than that, more like 6-6 which is certainly doable.
No sane person is arguing we will be a 9 or 10 win program.