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Originally Posted by
msstate7
One he transfers to you, he's done unless he's a graduate
That's any transfer.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
If we pay John Jim (freshman) from Joe blow state to transfer here, he can't transfer without sitting out again till he graduates. That one big sum gets you 2 years
No no no. You will have to pay John Jim every year he is here. You think OM paid Dart in 2022 and he then played for free in 2023 and will play for free in 2024?
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Originally Posted by
Turfdawg67
So you want an unproven QB transfer?
I would rather break the bank on Dante Moore than Gabriel. If we miss on Moore, scout another freshman/soph qb that you can develop and use money on oline. I would invest heavily in oline
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Originally Posted by
confucius say
No no no. You will have to pay John Jim every year he is here. You think OM paid Dart in 2022 and he then played for free in 2023 and will play for free in 2024?
I bet he ain't getting 2 million like Gabriel will this season.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
I bet he ain't getting 2 million like Gabriel will this season.
I think Gabriel is better than Dart. Dart is going to get paid this year. If he doesn't he will hit the portal as grad transfer and get paid that way. May go back to USC and get paid there.
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Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
I think Gabriel is better than Dart. Dart is going to get paid this year. If he doesn't he will hit the portal as grad transfer and get paid that way. May go back to USC and get paid there.
Has dart graduated? If he has, then yes, he will get paid big.
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Originally Posted by
WinningIsRelentless
We freed up a good amount of money with letting Tulu go just for this. Smart move on our part.
What tulu was getting wasn't a speck to this. And need that money and then some to find a replacement for him
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
What tulu was getting wasn't a speck to this. And need that money and then some to find a replacement for him
I would think we need the money for OL/DL as well. So many holes there.
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If we can get Gabriel, we need to. Plain and simple.
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Originally Posted by
ZedFedder
If we can get Gabriel, we need to. Plain and simple.
Agreed. What isn't getting mentioned is that Portal QBs are like musical chairs and you don't want to end up with having to talk yourself into Peyton Thorne or some average QB.
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Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
I would think we need the money for OL/DL as well. So many holes there.
Exactly. This is my concern for paying 2 million for a qb we only have 1 season
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Exactly. This is my concern for paying 2 million for a qb we only have 1 season
If Gabriel had 2 years remaining and we wanted him for both, it would cost $4 million to get both. These aren't one-time signing bonuses regardless of how long they stay.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
If Gabriel had 2 years remaining and we wanted him for both, it would cost $4 million to get both. These aren't one-time signing bonuses regardless of how long they stay.
How much did dart get paid this season vs his transfer year?
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
How much did dart get paid this season vs his transfer year?
I don't know obviously, but I would assume he's either flat or a raise each year. He's definitely not getting a pay cut
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
I don't know obviously, but I would assume he's either flat or a raise each year. He's definitely not getting a pay cut
Maybe someone can fill us in bc it seems to me once leverage is gone, pay drops
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Here is the thing - we can't look at this as we do our traditional football roster or how we act moving beyond 2024. In order for our first year HC to establish MSU as a destination for quality QB's and other talent, we need instant results.
Landing Gabriel incredibly reduces our rebuilding time because he knows Lebby's system. So instead of all of our previous coaching transitions that failed partly due to having a QB/system mis-match, we have an opportunity to leap forward in a positive way.
The result of that is winning more games, which will allow a) our on roster QB2/3 to learn from a player well steeped in the offense; and b) show future recruits or transfers the possibilities in the offense instead of the typical "wait till we have 'our guys' approach.
Yes we have other needs - but QB 1 is THE game changer and you have to strike if you can. And Gabriel is a unique opportunity for our situation.
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
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We just can't have nice things.
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Originally Posted by
DownwardDawg
We just can't have nice things.
There's nothing any fanbase agrees on completely. Lebby has money to spend and it's his butt on the line, so I trust his interest and ours align. I prefer an eye to 2025, but I will support Lebby in whichever plan he rolls with
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Maybe someone can fill us in bc it seems to me once leverage is gone, pay drops
Totally agree.... I don't see why folks aren't getting this
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Oregon ain't backing down. They want Gabriel. He's listening.
Better have a damn good plan B.
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