When it comes to Lebby....

[Coursesuper]

I think where we differ here is that while 1 allegation against one player in 1 year can be dismissed as a rogue incident. And 2 allegations against 2 players in 2 different years can be a coincedence. 15+ allegations against 15+ players across 4+ years is a clear either pattern of encouragement at worst or lack of institutional control at best. One of the damning quotes on Art's leadership qualities and a thing that applies culpability down the line is "I delegated down and I shouldn't have. And I had a system where I was the last to know, and I should have been the first to know.

That quote coupled with Jeff Lebby's adamant stance that Art did nothing wrong. (Meaning Art was right to delegate down, and Jeff was in that group that was delegated down to, lest we forget one of the allegation was against a RB that Lebby coached.)

Further, there's this from the initial 2016 WSJ story: "In at least one of the cases, regents said, Briles knew about the complaint but didn't alert police or the proper Baylor officials." That's the same reason Joe Paterno's
statue was taken down at Penn State.

I think the Deshaun Watson case here is a good example to review. And I want everyone to personally ask themselves honestly this set of questions. Remember, you are not a court of law. You can answer that you want to defer to the court of law, but you are a person that can have an opinion.

How many Rape Allegations or Settlements Outside of Courtdoes it take for you to not want to be associated with a person. Whether that's as your friend, your football coach, your QB? Not a conviction. Either ongoing investigation or something settled outside of court.

Is it 1? 2? 5? 10? 20? 50? 100? 1000?

For me, It's 2. One time can be spite and I'm willing to let it play out. Two separate and no common agenda? Yea it's probably on you. 20+? I'm supposed to believe it's a Witch Hunt? L O ****ing L. That's my thoughts. Think the exercise through. You don't have to answer to the board. But do answer it for yourself.

What a diatribe of total bullshit. Like you said answer to yourself and save the rest of us from this. We don’t care about your moral reservations. If the guy is the hire just go away and continue to love the Missitppy Tate way that you cherish so much.

[MBDawg601]

I'm starting to feel like Tater is fully on board with this cancel culture BS. Guy hasn't been charged with ANYTHING. Yet still wants the guy and anyone associated with him to be cast away to the gates of hell.

[CoachT14]

I'm starting to feel like Tater is fully on board with this cancel culture BS. Guy hasn't been charged with ANYTHING. Yet still wants the guy and anyone associated with him to be cast away to the gates of hell.

Tater is off his rocker.

[BlackSailsDawg]

No sense in doing the bans. This conversation has a shelf life.

Either we hire Lebby and several people including myself stop supporting State until (in this timeline hopefully) Selmon is at OU in 3 years as AD, Lebby is an NFL HC having left after taking State to a Natty. Or whatever circumstance rids State of filth.

Or we don't hire Lebby and the conversation ends.

No one on this board is threatening anyone. We're arguing passionately and those of us who knows to use the ignore feature are utilizing it appropriately. Some of us are saying disgusting opinions that we hold and now we know what people value, but banning them doesn't change those opinions. The only way is through repeated discussion.

I point to SPMT as someone that was initially in the Lebby camp actually having positive discourse and attempted research.

No you are just a hypocrite. Bye Bye!