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11-21-2023, 05:46 PM
#181

Originally Posted by
Coach34
Klieman isnt coming here...some of you live in an alternate reality
Yeah. Cuz we po ole Mississippi State. Change the rhetoric Coach. Act like we belong and not try to achieve success with lesser options. Leaders make great things happen.
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11-21-2023, 05:47 PM
#182

Originally Posted by
Homedawg
No, that's being told I'm not interested. Not complicated
Yeah. I hired more than a few the candidate gave me that opening line. You MAKE IT HAPPEN.
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11-21-2023, 05:48 PM
#183

Originally Posted by
EdwardDrayton
Yeah. Cuz we po ole Mississippi State. Change the rhetoric Coach. Act like we belong and not try to achieve success with lesser options. Leaders make great things happen.
He's at an easier place to win. Why would he make a lateral move for a harder job? We absolutely shoulda fired Moorhead and arnett, but we've got a quick trigger reputation now that probably isn't appealing to guys with stability
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11-21-2023, 05:49 PM
#184

Originally Posted by
EdwardDrayton
He's making $6 million a year. Let's get in the adult pool or find another conference to play in.
He's owed over $40 MIL on his contract, with triggers automatic extensions that he just hit it will get to over $46 MIL. We can't come close to matching that on a 4 year deal. The best we could do is $8 MIL per year with 2 years written in extensions to carry it out to 6 years. That just barely gets over what his current contract totals. You can keep banging your head against the wall but we are not going to pay $9-10 MIL as a starting salary. We can pay up to $8 MIL for the right coach. But again, and the final time, he is not interested in coaching here so all of this in the end is moot.
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11-21-2023, 05:50 PM
#185

Originally Posted by
Homedawg
No, that's being told I'm not interested. Not complicated
This^^^^!!!!!
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11-21-2023, 05:56 PM
#186

Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
He's owed over $40 MIL on his contract, with triggers automatic extensions that he just hit it will get to over $46 MIL. We can't come close to matching that on a 4 year deal. The best we could do is $8 MIL per year with 2 years written in extensions to carry it out to 6 years. That just barely gets over what his current contract totals. You can keep banging your head against the wall but we are not going to pay $9-10 MIL as a starting salary. We can pay up to $8 MIL for the right coach. But again, and the final time, he is not interested in coaching here so all of this in the end is moot.
This is like NFL QB salaries the last five years. If schools want their coach of choice, you're going to spend the money or get left behind. Why is everyone OK to spout this 'gotta spend more money' message with NIL but not for the best coaching option. Spend what it takes to pull the best coaching option. It's no different.
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11-21-2023, 06:04 PM
#187

Originally Posted by
DownwardDawg
He was the DC that absolutely shut Leach down the week after we put up 600,000 yards of offense against LSU. Just sayin
Yeah. The first time anyone on the entire team tried to run air-raid against a zone with zero practice. Peter Sirmon would have shut them down running a drop 8 zone.
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11-21-2023, 06:12 PM
#188

Originally Posted by
EdwardDrayton
This is like NFL QB salaries the last five years. If schools want their coach of choice, you're going to spend the money or get left behind. Why is everyone OK to spout this 'gotta spend more money' message with NIL but not for the best coaching option. Spend what it takes to pull the best coaching option. It's no different.
No matter how much some of us want to be- we wont ever be upper-tier SEC.
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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11-21-2023, 06:15 PM
#189

Originally Posted by
EdwardDrayton
Yeah. Cuz we po ole Mississippi State. Change the rhetoric Coach. Act like we belong and not try to achieve success with lesser options. Leaders make great things happen.
This is an interesting take. It completely refutes the fact that people can evaluate situations and come to the conclusion that where they are is better than some other place and that no amount of money could change that.
It's a bold thought process though. I know I personally have not gone after jobs that would offer me substantial pay raises because the situation I was in was determined by me to be better than what I would be going into.
But maybe I'm the only one that's done that.
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11-21-2023, 06:19 PM
#190
The fact we're refusing to even consider coordinators pissses me off. Our best coach came here as a coordinator. This idea we should accept a bad hire simply because we're only looking at head coaches is dumb as hell. Go talk to coordinators and see what their plan is. Selling a high ceiling is better than accepting mediocrity.
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11-21-2023, 06:24 PM
#191

Originally Posted by
Coach34
No matter how much some of us want to be- we wont ever be upper-tier SEC.
Yeah. This is the crux of it Coach. But it's going to be to an even greater extent. Soon we will no longer be an SEC program. We simply will be relegated to another group that makes more sense for us. It's coming.
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11-21-2023, 06:28 PM
#192

Originally Posted by
EdwardDrayton
Yeah. This is the crux of it Coach. But it's going to be to an even greater extent. Soon we will no longer be an SEC program. We simply will be relegated to another group that makes more sense for us. It's coming.
But here’s the thing- with all the realignment still to come- it’s not going to matter who we hire.
https://twitter.com/gswaim/status/17...YKXqKt8QQD9Mtw
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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11-21-2023, 06:33 PM
#193

Originally Posted by
TrapGame
So if we bomb with the top four or five candidates Odom is the guy?
Kinda like what happened in our last baseball search
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11-21-2023, 06:36 PM
#194

Originally Posted by
Ezsoil
Kinda like what happened in our last baseball search
Visions of Chadwell making the rounds at the SEC Championship game telling everyone he got the job before it's officially announced just popped into my head.
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11-21-2023, 06:42 PM
#195

Originally Posted by
Mjoelner34
Visions of Chadwell making the rounds at the SEC Championship game telling everyone he got the job before it's officially announced just popped into my head.
Did that happen?
I do remember a certain AD going on the radio gushing about the future HC. Cohen definitely enjoyed the attention.
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11-21-2023, 06:43 PM
#196

Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
The fact we're refusing to even consider coordinators pissses me off. Our best coach came here as a coordinator. This idea we should accept a bad hire simply because we're only looking at head coaches is dumb as hell. Go talk to coordinators and see what their plan is. Selling a high ceiling is better than accepting mediocrity.
I get it, we have spoken to a coordinator though. But depending on how things shake out, we could end up with a sitting P5 coach. Long shot but I think you have to have that conversation for that particular coach and go down that path of interest.
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11-21-2023, 06:45 PM
#197

Originally Posted by
Santiago
Did that happen?
I do remember a certain AD going on the radio gushing about the future HC. Cohen definitely enjoyed the attention.
I wasn't in Omaha but I heard Schloss was there telling people he had the job.
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11-21-2023, 06:59 PM
#198

Originally Posted by
Coach34
Wut? Of course it matters. Quit being such a pu$$y.
Last edited by HoopsDawg; 11-21-2023 at 07:05 PM.
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11-21-2023, 07:19 PM
#199
This thread makes me thankful that I have been on this board long enough to know who to trust and I can quickly scan past the other 90% of clutter...
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11-21-2023, 07:39 PM
#200

Originally Posted by
DownwardDawg
I read comments like this and start laughing. Maybe I said it wrong because no one really knows what their athletic budget is because they are private. I do know this, they have plenty of money. They can spend it like they choose to spend it. But if they decide to get serious about football, they can pay as much or more than we can for a HC. Probably more. Their facilities are nicer than ours. Their IPF is top notch. Doesn't look like our trailer trash Mississippi building.
Some of you have tunnel vision. There's actually some nice places outside the SEC believe it or not.
Then say that in your original post instead of crap like their athletic budget dwarfs ours
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