Barry Odom Rumor

[Commercecomet24]

Like always on message boards, the truth lies in the middle. We aren't as bad of a job as 34 says, but we aren't desirable enough to throw $8 mil out there and have every coach in America making $7.5 or less knocking on our door.

And there is a big difference between a job being "easier" to win a Championship at, and a job being more "desirable. We are a more desirable job than Kansas to most coaches. High profile SEC job in the best conference in the land. Most coaches are confident and competitive, so it doesn't scare them to have to compete in the SEC...especially making $2-$3 mil more per year.
Not to mention, Mullen proved you can win 6-9 games per year and stay as long as you want, and make life changing money without achieving life changing results.
But not a lateral move. Kansas doesn't fire coaches 10 games in bc they aren't trending up. It's easier to win at Kansas bc the conference is weaker...that's it. But guys like Leipold don't seem to be the type that wants comfort and isn't confident in his ability to win in whatever conference he's in. If he's scared, stay at Kansas, we don't need a wuss.

We should absolutely call every big boy out there and gauge interest and let them know we're offering big money to take on the big job of knocking off the big boys in the big division of the big conference. And let them know it's going to take someone with big balls, but they'll be rewarded with a big salary and big fan support. And see who answers the bell. We may not all be fired up over the next hire...but winning cures all, and puts asses in seats. That being said, we don't need to botch this hire, so go big or go home Selmon.

100% perfectly said my man! Have some rep!

[Commercecomet24]

I feel confident we're working on a coach behind the scenes and a lot of this stuff is agent talk and smoke screen. Throw in the stupidity of former players and Joe Judge and that summarizes this search.

I agree. There are people on this board who know way more than me, but I have a few channels, and I believe Cooter is right on with this post.

[Coach34]

Like always on message boards, the truth lies in the middle. We aren't as bad of a job as 34 says, but we aren't desirable enough to throw $8 mil out there and have every coach in America making $7.5 or less knocking on our door.

And there is a big difference between a job being "easier" to win a Championship at, and a job being more "desirable. We are a more desirable job than Kansas to most coaches. High profile SEC job in the best conference in the land. Most coaches are confident and competitive, so it doesn't scare them to have to compete in the SEC...especially making $2-$3 mil more per year.
Not to mention, Mullen proved you can win 6-9 games per year and stay as long as you want, and make life changing money without achieving life changing results.
But not a lateral move. Kansas doesn't fire coaches 10 games in bc they aren't trending up. It's easier to win at Kansas bc the conference is weaker...that's it. But guys like Leipold don't seem to be the type that wants comfort and isn't confident in his ability to win in whatever conference he's in. If he's scared, stay at Kansas, we don't need a wuss.
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I love all the bravado of posts like these. "If a coach is scared of trying to run thru a brick wall instead of just walking around it- then we dont want that mf'er and he aint the one for us"

You can love your university and still realize that we are a lateral move for at least 25 programs out there on its face- but would lose out to many coaches because they would simply prefer to live in Lexington, Columbia, and many other places before Starkville, Ms. The money out there now all over is life-changing. Being the small fry in the power conference is not the flex you think it is.

[RockyDog]

I love all the bravado of posts like these. "If a coach is scared of trying to run thru a brick wall instead of just walking around it- then we dont want that mf'er and he aint the one for us"

You can love your university and still realize that we are a lateral move for at least 25 programs out there on its face- but would lose out to many coaches because they would simply prefer to live in Lexington, Columbia, and many other places before Starkville, Ms. The money out there now all over is life-changing. Being the small fry in the power conference is not the flex you think it is.

Yep. We have ponied up for a coach exactly once. That was to keep Danny Two Gloves out of desperation. Sure, we got a standing P5 HC in Leach, but we stole him from a comparable small fry in a remote PAC12 land and still went cheap on his assistant pool.

Maybe this time is different. Who knows. But until we actually show we are going to be a "big boy", then we are still hovering in same ol MSU territory.

[HancockCountyDog]

There are only about 20-25 jobs better than ours. But I get your point.

I think there is a difference between our program and our job. At least in my mind, there is.

[Coach34]

I think there is a difference between our program and our job. At least in my mind, there is.

That's a good way to put it.

We could certainly have a shot to pull a guy from Liberty like Chadwell. Other flavor of the year guys from the G5 is a coach by coach situation and dependent on what they have in their minds. We pulled Leach because he is a Key West guy and was in Pullman, Washington. Starkville being much closer to KW worked in our favor there. But we are unlikely to pull another P5 guy from anywhere.

Why would Fleck leave Minn for us? What advantage is gained to move his family?
Why would a guy leave Kansas where he has already built them into a contender in their conference to start over at State for a much tougher job? You cant win a title at either school- so why leave? Stay at Kansas in an easier conference with no Texas or OU- have an easier chance to get into the playoff and get that blue blood offer without uprooting and starting over.

That's just where things are.

[TALL DAWG]

Our winters are a lot better than those places. So, there is that.

[TrapGame]

Our winters are a lot better than those places. So, there is that.

Our summers are as bad as their winters. We don't need a pansy coach wanting to go practice inside b/c it's hot.

[basedog]

That's a good way to put it.

We could certainly have a shot to pull a guy from Liberty like Chadwell. Other flavor of the year guys from the G5 is a coach by coach situation and dependent on what they have in their minds. We pulled Leach because he is a Key West guy and was in Pullman, Washington. Starkville being much closer to KW worked in our favor there. But we are unlikely to pull another P5 guy from anywhere.

Why would Fleck leave Minn for us? What advantage is gained to move his family?
Why would a guy leave Kansas where he has already built them into a contender in their conference to start over at State for a much tougher job? You cant win a title at either school- so why leave? Stay at Kansas in an easier conference with no Texas or OU- have an easier chance to get into the playoff and get that blue blood offer without uprooting and starting over.

That's just where things are.

Jason Aldean says ?hold my beer?. Coaches make so much money now days they have other homes away from StarkVegas.

[Maroonthirteen]

The more I study Odom, I think Odom needs to be the next Head Coach at Mississippi State.

He has plenty of HC and Coordinator experience in the SEC and G5 levels. He has been a succesful HC and DC every where.

He was given the task of replacing a long time coach at MU. Arkansas people will tell you he was the man behind the curtain for Pittman at Arkansas.

I think Odom gives you the experience necessary to build this program back and back in a mold that fits Mississippi State and it's recruiting profile. Which would be a solid foundation moving forward.

[DownwardDawg]

The more I study Odom, I think Odom needs to be the next Head Coach at Mississippi State.

He has plenty of HC and Coordinator experience in the SEC and G5 levels. He has been a succesful HC and DC every where.

He was given the task of replacing a long time coach at MU. Arkansas people will tell you he was the man behind the curtain for Pittman at Arkansas.

I think Odom gives you the experience necessary to build this program back and back in a mold that fits Mississippi State and it's recruiting profile. Which would be a solid foundation moving forward.

He's growing on me as well. He does seem to fit the MSU mold.

[Cooterpoot]

The more I study Odom, I think Odom needs to be the next Head Coach at Mississippi State.

He has plenty of HC and Coordinator experience in the SEC and G5 levels. He has been a succesful HC and DC every where.

He was given the task of replacing a long time coach at MU. Arkansas people will tell you he was the man behind the curtain for Pittman at Arkansas.

I think Odom gives you the experience necessary to build this program back and back in a mold that fits Mississippi State and it's recruiting profile. Which would be a solid foundation moving forward.

He's .500 in the SEC playing in the East. That's not impressive at all.

[Jbp5]

He actually had Bobby Petrino hired at UNLV before Jimbo stole him away.

[msstate7]

He's .500 in the SEC playing in the East. That's not impressive at all.

Do we have any coach ever that's coached 3 seasons with a winning record in the sec?

[Quaoarsking]

Why is Odom more popular than Malzahn? I can understand not wanting to hire someone else's rejects, but Malzahn has the much better resume between the two.

Do people just want a "defensive" coach?

[Really Clark?]

Why is Odom more popular than Malzahn? I can understand not wanting to hire someone else's rejects, but Malzahn has the much better resume between the two.

Do people just want a "defensive" coach?

Malzhan is not an option, no use debating him at this point.

[Cooterpoot]

Do we have any coach ever that's coached 3 seasons with a winning record in the sec?

What's that go to do with anything? Are we not trying to improve our situation? This Poor Ass Ole State bullshit that eats up our fans drives me insane. MO fired the guy. AR was wanting him out when he left. And he won't be playing in the weaker East division with the new set up. I see no way he can win here.

[Quaoarsking]

Malzhan is not an option, no use debating him at this point.

I'm not advocating for him. I'm pointing out the absurdity that people are much higher on Odom than they were for the clearly superior Malzahn.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Cooter is right IMO. Get the guy we believe gives us a shot at the Top 12 every so often. It will be risky. But hiring Liberty Bowl and Belk Bowl ceiling guys is a no go

[DownwardDawg]

What's that go to do with anything? Are we not trying to improve our situation? This Poor Ass Ole State bullshit that eats up our fans drives me insane. MO fired the guy. AR was wanting him out when he left. And he won't be playing in the weaker East division with the new set up. I see no way he can win here.

I'm with you 100% on this. I hate the poor little ol me attitude. But you have to realize that even you are shitting on the names that some of our posters post on here. You, and others let us know we have no shot at some of these sitting coaches. So then we post Odom and Malzahn and such and get told we have a loser attitude. It's hard......