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11-17-2023, 10:51 PM
#201

Originally Posted by
Coach34
Cleared of wrongdoing
You're either a bigger dipshit than usual, or you think we all are. Nobody would sincerely label that as "cleared of wrongdoing"
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11-17-2023, 10:53 PM
#202

Originally Posted by
Homedawg
Well we have to have 10 to pay off the old stafff. And I know we not have a candidate worth more than 8 at best a year. That's 42. So we won't be needing the entire pie. Might have to spend some more on a small buyout. We shall see
Where are you getting 42 from? I see 10 and 8.
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11-17-2023, 10:54 PM
#203
I'd be Ok with Lebby as long as he nails his DC hire.
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11-17-2023, 10:57 PM
#204

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Where are you getting 42 from? I see 10 and 8.
8 per year equals 32. 10 for buyout. 42. Sorry wasn't clear in my post.
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11-17-2023, 11:01 PM
#205

Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
You're either a bigger dipshit than usual, or you think we all are. Nobody would sincerely label that as "cleared of wrongdoing"
literally what the court said- I'm good with it. But damn man- if we get to Lebby on the list after missing on the 6-7 other targets- we have to just hold our nose and do it
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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11-17-2023, 11:03 PM
#206
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11-17-2023, 11:10 PM
#207
Senior Member

Originally Posted by
Coach34
literally what the court said- I'm good with it. But damn man- if we get to Lebby on the list after missing on the 6-7 other targets- we have to just hold our nose and do it
I don't think the issue is Lebby. It's Briles. If that post is the ruling by the court, it doesn't clear him in my eyes. IF a college aged girl reported a sexual assault to him and he did nothing about it, such as report it to the police or administration, he's a POS. You don't have to have training to be a decent human being. If we get down that far and Lebby is there then so be it. Briles should be nowhere around the program in my opinion.
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11-17-2023, 11:17 PM
#208

Originally Posted by
Coach34
literally what the court said- I'm good with it. But damn man- if we get to Lebby on the list after missing on the 6-7 other targets- we have to just hold our nose and do it
It "literally" isn't though, not even close. You're referring to one particular case out of dozens, and a plaintiff losing a case does not and has never meant that the defendant was "cleared" of anything, just that that particular instance isn't proven. But even if you want to go so far to say he's exonerated on that one case, there's still dozens of others where he's not.
The texts between him and his AD (who still works as Liberty's AD btw) make it explicitly clear that Briles was covering up crimes and intimidating victims - he comes right out and says it in them. You can read about them here: https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2017...court-records/ (2017) or the ones that just dropped this month: https://defector.com/the-just-reveal...at-youd-expect
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11-17-2023, 11:29 PM
#209

Originally Posted by
Coach34
We'll just disagree. A successful veteran HC helping his son-in-law be successful as well is a big deal.
Nobody on campus and around the program would give a shit who Briles was. These kids dont care today
Have you had a serious conversation where you LISTENED to a 16 - 21 year old zoomer? Kids these days are some of the most passionate and radical for any cause.
Any amount of Briles and Lebby would bring severe backlash. I know my donataions and support for the football team would dry up until my university got its shit together. There are several whom feel the same way. It's the worst hire we can reasonably make. And it scares me that none of our big mouth pieces are squashing it. It's not only a risk in the football since, it's a horrendous risk in the public perception arena.
I'm disappointed it's gotten this far.
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11-17-2023, 11:31 PM
#210

Originally Posted by
Homedawg
8 per year equals 32. 10 for buyout. 42. Sorry wasn't clear in my post.
Thanks!
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11-17-2023, 11:31 PM
#211
I won't hold Lebby responsible for his father-in-law's poor behavior, but I would definitely expect Briles not to set foot on campus as anything other than a fan during Lebby's entire tenure.
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11-17-2023, 11:33 PM
#212

Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
I won't hold Lebby responsible for his father-in-law's poor behavior, but I would definitely expect Briles not to set foot on campus as anything other than a fan during Lebby's entire tenure.
Bingo!
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11-17-2023, 11:37 PM
#213

Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
I won't hold Lebby responsible for his father-in-law's poor behavior, but I would definitely expect Briles not to set foot on campus as anything other than a fan during Lebby's entire tenure.
The fact Lebby is being held for what his father in law did is nuts. And I ageee w you on briles. He's a no go
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11-18-2023, 12:16 AM
#214
Jeff Traylor is a very good coach. If Texas A&M doesn't hire him, I think we should really consider him.
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11-18-2023, 08:58 AM
#215

Originally Posted by
Coach34
No doubt- but Briles was cleared recently of wrongdoing. He's a helluva asset if we have to hire a coordinator
Im good with Briles
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11-18-2023, 09:02 AM
#216

Originally Posted by
BuckyIsAB****
Im good with Briles
He's talking about art.
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11-18-2023, 09:03 AM
#217

Originally Posted by
NCDawg
Jeff Traylor is a very good coach. If Texas A&M doesn't hire him, I think we should really consider him.
I'm not sure he's wanting to take the lunge our way. Could be wrong but don't believe so
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11-18-2023, 09:13 AM
#218

Originally Posted by
Coach34
literally what the court said- I'm good with it. But damn man- if we get to Lebby on the list after missing on the 6-7 other targets- we have to just hold our nose and do it
I lived in Waco around that time and can tell you Briles did some shady stuff, and not only swept it under the rug, he had local media and law turning an eye. Like a TSUN culture.
Google the articles about the transfer that came from Boise. Briles claimed he had no idea of the troubles of the guy, and Petersen publicly called out Briles about that and said he called Briles and told him do not take the kid and told about the trouble he had caused and was dangerous.
If you want to say a court simply got him off the hook, then so did OJ as well.
But Briles, and his family was doing some shady crap at Baylor.
Let me edit: Saying it was shady is actually too nice a term for what Briles was doing. If it was anyone here who had a daughter handled by Baylor and Briles the way the did, I would put money down one of you would have put him in the hospital for it.
Last edited by Santiago; 11-18-2023 at 09:17 AM.
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11-18-2023, 09:16 AM
#219
Here is the article of Petersen calling out Briles. Anyone here trying to defend this POS needs to get off this board.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa...jiz2hwro8126lu
" Baylor coach Art Briles denied knowing anything about Ukwuachu’s violent past, but Petersen essentially called Briles a liar in a statement Friday released to ESPN.com.
"After Sam Ukwuachu was dismissed from the Boise State football program and expressed an interest in transferring to Baylor, I initiated a call with coach Art Briles," Petersen's statement said. "In that conversation, I thoroughly apprised Coach Briles of the circumstances surrounding Sam's disciplinary record and dismissal."
Petersen’s side of the story is far different from Briles' account. When asked if Boise State informed him of linebacker’s disciplinary record, Briles said all the coaching staff knew about the defensive end before recruiting him was that he was depressed and homesick. "
Last edited by Santiago; 11-18-2023 at 09:18 AM.
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11-18-2023, 09:18 AM
#220
All this pearl clutching is just so typical of the Mitippy Tate way. Wake the 17 up folks. This has become a zero sum game that is driven by ESPN/ABC Disney. They will dictate what when and where for the foreseeable future in college athletics. We have a product to put on the field that sells or not. If we don?t we?re out period. Get used to it.
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