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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    Correct. But there will be a domino effect from Aggie that will create vacancies that will affect our pond. So the sooner we lock up our guy the better
    We won't be able to lock up a guy unless it's someone that no one at our level wants anyway. The coaches we are going for are going to wait out the carousel to see the full amount of options. It's going to be a wait period unless we settle for a coach. I'd rather have 3-4 options ready to interview after the season that are better than the ones we could lock up right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton View Post
    Fire Arnett. Now. Should have already happened. We let A&Mediocre beat us to the punch. Really?!!?? They were bowl eligible 6-4, beat us by 40 and they had to come up with $70 million!!!

    Strike 1 Zac; we're waiting and the clock is ticking. We already gave you a free pass with Lemo.

    Then pay whatever it costs to get our replacement of choice. All in or we go Sunbelt.
    Heard they are paying $100M all-in costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bothrops View Post
    This program is finished. Hell A&M's program may be finished.
    Based on??? I mean this isn't the first coach we've had to can. And in 4 years odds are we will be doing it again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Running him up the middle and have him throw a bunch of curl routes isn't going to maximize his talent.
    You've forgotten really quickly how good Mullen was at developing QB's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tater View Post
    2014 we make the playoff. 1999 we make the playoff. 10-2 is relevancy. That is attainable at this job, we just need the right guy to come in here. It was attainable this year if Leach hadn't passed away.
    In 1999 we finished ranked 13th w a bowl win. So no to that year being a playoff year. And yeah boy if leach were here we'd be in the hunt. That's laughable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    We won't be able to lock up a guy unless it's someone that no one at our level wants anyway. The coaches we are going for are going to wait out the carousel to see the full amount of options. It's going to be a wait period unless we settle for a coach. I'd rather have 3-4 options ready to interview after the season that are better than the ones we could lock up right now.
    The people that think we are gonna have a coach Monday after the egg bowl gonna have their feelings hurt. Can't wait for that meltdown after todays absolute shit show about not firing him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    We won't be able to lock up a guy unless it's someone that no one at our level wants anyway. The coaches we are going for are going to wait out the carousel to see the full amount of options. It's going to be a wait period unless we settle for a coach. I'd rather have 3-4 options ready to interview after the season that are better than the ones we could lock up right now.
    This is what our fans dont get or want to get. Nobody is taking our job before they know they cant get one of the better ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    This is what our fans dont get or want to get. Nobody is taking our job before they know they cant get one of the better ones.
    Certainly not now that all of the dominos are starting to tumble. Any chance we had at locking somebody up early went away when we sat on our hands the last three weeks.
    Maybe wouldn't have mattered anyway. Probably not. But certainly too late now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    Certainly not now that all of the dominos are starting to tumble. Any chance we had at locking somebody up early went away when we sat on our hands the last three weeks.
    Maybe wouldn't have mattered anyway. Probably not. But certainly too late now.
    What? Nobody was going to commit to us before the dominoes started falling. You dont take the drunk skank in the bar at 8:45 pm when you got 3 more hours to get a better choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    Certainly not now that all of the dominos are starting to tumble. Any chance we had at locking somebody up early went away when we sat on our hands the last three weeks.
    Maybe wouldn't have mattered anyway. Probably not. But certainly too late now.
    There was no probably not. It was a definite not. They see the coaching carousel every single year and how the dominos fall. We were not locking up anyone early that is not way down on the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CadaverDawg View Post
    - First time AD making his first HC hire
    - worst budget in SEC
    - Will be replacing a coach he fired in his first season and will have to explain to every candidate how they can feel secure
    - Worst NIL in the West

    Bottom line, Selmon and MSU have GOT to be prepared to overpay for a HC for the first time ever. We don't have the ability to score some steal. No relationships, no leverage, no full cupboard....it will be all about the money, and we are MSU so we will need more than most programs to entice anyone of worth
    A good portion of that is fiction

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    Certainly not now that all of the dominos are starting to tumble. Any chance we had at locking somebody up early went away when we sat on our hands the last three weeks.
    Maybe wouldn't have mattered anyway. Probably not. But certainly too late now.
    You just don't get it do you. That's clear. Firing him now might change some things. Might. Maybe we play better. Doubt it. But one thing it doesn't change is the timeline of hiring a coach. Not one DAMN day. Get that through your head please

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    You just don't get it do you. That's clear. Firing him now might change some things. Might. Maybe we play better. Doubt it. But one thing it doesn't change is the timeline of hiring a coach. Not one DAMN day. Get that through your head please
    Who disagrees with that? Literally everyone knows that the new coach isn't being hired until the Sunday after Thanksgiving.

    Wanting to fire Arnett today rather than the after the Egg Bowl is 100% entirely about making the team better over the next 2 games. That's what the argument has always been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    Who disagrees with that? Literally everyone knows that the new coach isn't being hired until the Sunday after Thanksgiving.

    Wanting to fire Arnett today rather than the after the Egg Bowl is 100% entirely about making the team better over the next 2 games. That's what the argument has always been.
    "Who disagrees with that?" Several and the person he quoted.

    BTW, I would be more shocked if we hire someone that Sunday since many would have just played their last regular season game the day before. It's usually the very last of November early Dec when a hire is made. Not the Sunday after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    What? Nobody was going to commit to us before the dominoes started falling. You dont take the drunk skank in the bar at 8:45 pm when you got 3 more hours to get a better choice.
    Bite your tongue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DownwardDawg View Post
    You've forgotten really quickly how good Mullen was at developing QB's.
    And you've forgotten about how bad he was at recruiting so he never really maximized it. See 2015 with Dak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    Who disagrees with that? Literally everyone knows that the new coach isn't being hired until the Sunday after Thanksgiving.

    Wanting to fire Arnett today rather than the after the Egg Bowl is 100% entirely about making the team better over the next 2 games. That's what the argument has always been.
    Um the guy I responded to for one. And multiple other people. It's all over the place. People think not firing him is costing us a chance to get ahead. If you haven't seen it you haven't been paying attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    What? Nobody was going to commit to us before the dominoes started falling. You dont take the drunk skank in the bar at 8:45 pm when you got 3 more hours to get a better choice.
    You were never deployed in the Military I see. The old adage was go ugly early/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    Wanting to fire Arnett today rather than the after the Egg Bowl is 100% entirely about making the team better over the next 2 games. That's what the argument has always been.
    But not everyone agrees with you on this. Thats the divide
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    Quote Originally Posted by parabrave View Post
    You were never deployed in the Military I see. The old adage was go ugly early/
    No- I'm a snob. I always hold out until I have to make the jump
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