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11-12-2023, 08:51 PM
#101
And not only that- it also makes potential coaches realize there isnt much talent on the roster. So why go there?
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11-12-2023, 08:53 PM
#102

Originally Posted by
Coach34
No- not at all. It makes me think we want our next HC to think we dont overreact and do shitty things to our coaches. Contrary to what you think- firing Arnett after 1 season while transitioning from the AR will rub some guys in the business the wrong way. We are going to do it- but it will turn off some guys.
It want much to any be a problem. It?s a business now days, especially when Coaches can make millions per year. Money talks in all business, in saying this, I don?t expect a well known coach to be in StarkVegas next year. But I can see the next Coach being in the 5-7 million range.
Btw, money has been raised weeks ago for the buyout. Selmon has been on alert now for at least 3 or 4 weeks.
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11-12-2023, 08:59 PM
#103

Originally Posted by
basedog
I don?t expect a well known coach to be in StarkVegas next year. But I can see the next Coach being in the 5-7 million range.
Btw, money has been raised weeks ago for the buyout. Selmon has been on alert now for at least 3 or 4 weeks.
Oh no doubt he has and has been working the phones. But coaches see the lack of talent and nobody on the NFL radar. We gonna have to pay up
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11-12-2023, 09:07 PM
#104

Originally Posted by
Coach34
Oh no doubt he has and has been working the phones. But coaches see the lack of talent and nobody on the NFL radar. We gonna have to pay up
Portal has to be our friend. I read where you talked about Qb situation and bad play and lack of experience stuff. But to me the biggest disappointment in this years team was our experienced offensive line play. They couldn’t block or pass protect and just got worse. I put a lot of this own Friend, he was a very questionable hire and he has to one of the worse OL coaches we have had in a long time.
You talked about lack of talent, most of the new players we brought in with this staff were mostly flops. Plus when you have 26 returning seniors we should expect more. Just poor coaching on both sides of the ball. There is no dodging this.
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11-12-2023, 09:07 PM
#105

Originally Posted by
Coach34
Yes because coaches have no idea what its like to start your 2nd and 3rd team QB's for 4-5 games after losing your starter. Those coaches know how easy it is to plug guys in just like fans do on playstation
While you guys give this staff no quarter after losing Rogers coaches understand that shit hurts your program and causes problems
People are hard on this staff because the teams is clearly undisciplined and in complete disarray. It?s that simple.
Delay of games while punting, 12 penalties late in the year. That is why people want a complete staff turn over. It?s pathetic and you know it as well as the rest of us do.
They were undisciplined and poorly coached with Rogers. It?s very obvious.
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11-12-2023, 09:15 PM
#106
Just really strange seeing C34 and Homedawg both silence their tongues on CZA. Even with Will, we all saw how Arnett was in over his head. Even if you say he is going to be fired at the end of the season, ok? Why does it matter to not let him coach the remaining two games? Y?all are holding onto something it seems
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11-12-2023, 09:20 PM
#107

Originally Posted by
Activated Alpha
Just really strange seeing C34 and Homedawg both silence their tongues on CZA. Even with Will, we all saw how Arnett was in over his head. Even if you say he is going to be fired at the end of the season, ok? Why does it matter to not let him coach the remaining two games? Y'all are holding onto something it seems
They want to leave the door open for him to return in 2024. It's so obvious. If he's fired today, he won't be back, but if he gets 2 more games, who knows?
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11-12-2023, 09:35 PM
#108

Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
They want to leave the door open for him to return in 2024. It's so obvious. If he's fired today, he won't be back, but if he gets 2 more games, who knows?
dude he is gone. He wont be back in 2024. Thats for certain
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11-12-2023, 09:35 PM
#109

Originally Posted by
Homedawg
I don't care who the ad is but firing him now makes ZERO difference except making some people in the internet happy. That's all
It could arguably keep some talent from bailing into the portal, if they got a sense that leadership had an actual vision.
But mainly, there's no good in letting our leadership have the option to screw up and keep him. And every hour he stays employed gets us closer to that default non-action.
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11-12-2023, 09:37 PM
#110

Originally Posted by
SPMT
People are hard on this staff because the teams is clearly undisciplined and in complete disarray. It?s that simple.
Delay of games while punting, 12 penalties late in the year. That is why people want a complete staff turn over. It?s pathetic and you know it as well as the rest of us do.
They were undisciplined and poorly coached with Rogers. It?s very obvious.
Mississippi, Kentucky, and Tenn have more penalties than us. Are they poorly coached also?
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11-12-2023, 09:40 PM
#111

Originally Posted by
MagicDawg
It could arguably keep some talent from bailing into the portal, if they got a sense that leadership had an actual vision.
We are losing 1/3 of this roster anyway. Does it matter? The next coach is going to have to portal like we have never portaled
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11-12-2023, 09:41 PM
#112

Originally Posted by
Activated Alpha
Just really strange seeing C34 and Homedawg both silence their tongues on CZA. Even with Will, we all saw how Arnett was in over his head. Even if you say he is going to be fired at the end of the season, ok? Why does it matter to not let him coach the remaining two games? Y?all are holding onto something it seems
C34 no longer has any credibility. He?s burying it. Falling on his sword. Sadly. I was one if the few that respected his take.
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11-12-2023, 09:44 PM
#113

Originally Posted by
Activated Alpha
Just really strange seeing C34 and Homedawg both silence their tongues on CZA. Even with Will, we all saw how Arnett was in over his head. Even if you say he is going to be fired at the end of the season, ok? Why does it matter to not let him coach the remaining two games? Y?all are holding onto something it seems
Silence?? He's gonna be fired. And fired based on a poor job. What else you want me to say?? What am I holding onto?? All firing him today does is appeases a bunch of whiny ass people. If they do fine. I won't cry but it's not changing anything w the coaching search. Or our record.
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11-12-2023, 09:44 PM
#114

Originally Posted by
SPMT
C34 no longer has any credibility. He?s burying it. Falling on his sword. Sadly. I was one if the few that respected his take.
Why? Because I dont want 12 days of Tony Hughes as our interim HC? Thats a strange take
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11-12-2023, 09:45 PM
#115

Originally Posted by
Coach34
Mississippi, Kentucky, and Tenn have more penalties than us. Are they poorly coached also?
Eyes. Use your eyes. Watching the output is horrendous.
The team plays poorly and looks poorly coached.
Yes, I would rather another coach portal like they?ve never portaged than watch Arnett cluster**** it.
If you don’t think we can do better than this then portals and NIL won’t do shit. No one is giving with Arnett still around.
Last edited by SPMT; 11-12-2023 at 09:47 PM.
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11-12-2023, 09:45 PM
#116

Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
They want to leave the door open for him to return in 2024. It's so obvious. If he's fired today, he won't be back, but if he gets 2 more games, who knows?
Obvious??? Thought you would have left by now. I man you pitch a fit and didn't get what you wanted. Thought your were done???
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11-12-2023, 09:46 PM
#117

Originally Posted by
MagicDawg
It could arguably keep some talent from bailing into the portal, if they got a sense that leadership had an actual vision.
But mainly, there's no good in letting our leadership have the option to screw up and keep him. And every hour he stays employed gets us closer to that default non-action.
How?? When we get a new coach they will decide. Not until then. Firing him today isn't stopping anyone from getting into the portal....
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11-12-2023, 09:47 PM
#118

Originally Posted by
Homedawg
Silence?? He's gonna be fired. And fired based on a poor job. What else you want me to say?? What am I holding onto?? All firing him today does is appeases a bunch of whiny ass people. If they do fine. I won't cry but it's not changing anything w the coaching search. Or our record.
lol- dude I just got the text. All these AR Cult members and whiny fans have heard Will is playing Saturday. They are afraid we will win our last 2 and then Arnett will get another year. Thats all this is about
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11-12-2023, 09:50 PM
#119

Originally Posted by
Homedawg
Silence?? He's gonna be fired. And fired based on a poor job. What else you want me to say?? What am I holding onto?? All firing him today does is appeases a bunch of whiny ass people. If they do fine. I won't cry but it's not changing anything w the coaching search. Or our record.
I know you have been a voice of reason for many of coaches across State athletics. But I haven't seen you post nearly as much criticism towards this staff than you have regarding others. And I say it seems like you or C34 are holding onto some bit of information is because of withholding criticism for the majority of the season. And firing him today or tomorrow wouldn't just appease a bunch of whiny ass people it would appease a lot of the fanbase. So if firing him before next weekend won't change our coaching search or are record, why not just go on ahead and do it? Give some reasons as to why we need to keep him for the remaining two games
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11-12-2023, 09:53 PM
#120

Originally Posted by
Coach34
Why? Because I dont want 12 days of Tony Hughes as our interim HC? Thats a strange take
They want to hear you say you think arnett should be fired at season's end. Not that it is going to happen, but that you think it should happen and want it to happen.
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