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Originally Posted by
Coach34
nahhhh- it always starts with the QB. Ask Bill Belichick about life since Brady left
Hey man, you can admit it. You like the staff because they feed you info and talk to you. It's ok to have a personal connection and not admit they just flat out all suck. A lot of people had personal connections to Moorhead and that's what initially saved him. But to bury your head in the sand and think that this staff is not the problem is exactly that, burying your head in the sand. I have watched plenty of coaches be able to scheme even bad teams to score more than 1 OFFENSIVE TD IN 4 GAMES. 1. UNO.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
exactly. Firing him today accomplishes nothing
Keeping him until after the egg bowl accomplishes nothing
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Figured C34 and Homedawg would be the last bastions for Arnett and co. I don?t think anyone here is saying we are expecting to make a hire before season?s end. We can fire Arnett now and possibly rejuvenate our players and fanbase. Because right now we are just a dead carcass in the middle of the road continuing to get run over and over and over.
It is not unusual to fire a coach mid season. It has been done before and it just was done this morning. However, just because we are Mississippi state we cannot, absolutely not, fire a coach mid season? Oh the media will hammer us? Who gives a flying **** because they do that already. Like I know Homedawg isn?t carrying water, but it is just weird now how you two are clinging to this staff even though they?re going to be fired no matter what.
Do it now, get it done, and the remaining two games might be more enjoyable to watch
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
exactly. Firing him today accomplishes nothing
You can type this sentence as much as you want, but it will never make it true. We are more likely to win each of the next 2 games without Arnett than we are with Arnett. Winning is what matters, so he should be fired today.
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Originally Posted by
Activated Alpha
Figured C34 and Homedawg would be the last bastions for Arnett and co. I don?t think anyone here is saying we are expecting to make a hire before season?s end. We can fire Arnett now and possibly rejuvenate our players and fanbase. Because right now we are just a dead carcass in the middle of the road continuing to get run over and over and over.
Coach34 is desperate to let Arnett coach the Egg Bowl, so that just in case we win he can gloat really hard and call for us to retain him.
It's not likely, and Arnett winning it is less likely than an interim coach winning it, but the chances aren't literally 0%, so he has a bit of hope.
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Originally Posted by
KOdawg1
Keeping him until after the egg bowl accomplishes nothing
No it negatively accomplishes something. More apathy and the impression that headless chickens run the program.
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The players don't support the coach and neither do the fans. Getting rid of him now at least gives some sort of peace to everyone that we are committed to making the team better and actively searching. You have to show some sort of transparency when the dumpster is on fire.
This isn't the Croom days where social media was minimal. You could get away with being quiet. Not anymore. Being quiet shows inadequacy.
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Originally Posted by
BlackSailsDawg
QB play is not the problem... FRIGGIN COACHING IS!
The whole team is a problem at the moment.
Let?s let Peterson coach last two games
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
You can type this sentence as much as you want, but it will never make it true. We are more likely to win each of the next 2 games without Arnett than we are with Arnett. Winning is what matters, so he should be fired today.
We will win Saturday no matter who the coach is. As one of the coaches said yesterday during a telecast about Harbaugh- HC's matter very little on GameDay if they dont coach a side of the ball. It's all about the coordinators and position coaches. He's right in that assessment.
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
vindastra
No it negatively accomplishes something. More apathy and the impression that headless chickens run the program.
How? Everybody knows we are talking to agents and such- including his.
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
We will win Saturday no matter who the coach is. As one of the coaches said yesterday during a telecast about Harbaugh- HC's matter very little on GameDay if they dont coach a side of the ball. It's all about the coordinators and position coaches. He's right in that assessment.
DESPERATE.
Now suddenly after all these years it doesn't even matter who the head coach is!
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Look at Auburn last year. They knew they needed to make the change and made it. They knew Harsin wasn't saving his job but their fan base was apathetic and could less have given a shit what time the game was much less who won it. They fire him and it rejuvenates the team and the fanbase. Yea Bama still beat the shit out of them, but they almost, and probably should have, beaten us and did beat A&M and their non conference opponent.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
We will win Saturday no matter who the coach is. As one of the coaches said yesterday during a telecast about Harbaugh- HC's matter very little on GameDay if they dont coach a side of the ball. It's all about the coordinators and position coaches. He's right in that assessment.
That was Lee Corso who said that....are you now taking coaching advice from Lee Corso? That's a below .500 career coach who needs to retire because you can't understand every other word out of his mouth and he knows what he is saying and where he is about as much as Biden
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Look at Auburn last year. They knew they needed to make the change and made it. They knew Harsin wasn't saving his job but their fan base was apathetic and could less have given a shit what time the game was much less who won it. They fire him and it rejuvenates the team and the fanbase. Yea Bama still beat the shit out of them, but they almost, and probably should have, beaten us and did beat A&M and their non conference opponent.
Auburn would have gotten blown out in their last 3 SEC games and potentially also lost to Western Kentucky if they'd kept Harsin. 1-3 at best. Instead, they go 2-2 with an overtime loss to us and not a complete embarrassment to Alabama. Pretty similar situation to us. Firing Harsin made them a better team over their last 4 games, just like firing Arnett would make us better over our last 2.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
Auburn would have gotten blown out in their last 3 SEC games and potentially also lost to Western Kentucky if they'd kept Harsin. 1-3 at best. Instead, they go 2-2 with an overtime loss to us and not a complete embarrassment to Alabama. Pretty similar situation to us. Firing Harsin made them a better team over their last 4 games, just like firing Arnett would make us better over our last 2.
We probably will have the same record with or without Arnett but instead of having 15K this week and it being 65/35 OM fans we may get 35K this week and 60/40 our fans for the Egg Bowl
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
We probably will have the same record with or without Arnett but instead of having 15K this week and it being 65/35 OM fans we may get 35K this week and 60/40 our fans for the Egg Bowl
"Probably" sure but any increase in our odds is good.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
We will win Saturday no matter who the coach is. As one of the coaches said yesterday during a telecast about Harbaugh- HC's matter very little on GameDay if they dont coach a side of the ball. It's all about the coordinators and position coaches. He's right in that assessment.
Because Brock and Barbay would be gone too.
Knox HC, Bumphis OC, Hughes DC. Let's have an actual plan because Saturday is NOT a given.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Jans did not sign anything until Sunday morning after they were eliminated. We didn't even meet with him personally until then. Now we had been talking to his agent for a few days. The only reason I say that we need to go ahead and pull the plug is that I'm genuinely afraid we may lose Saturday if Arnett is on the sidelines. He has mailed it in and the team is taking that attitude from him.
So they were eliminated Saturday night and he signed Sunday morning? That tells me all the details were agreed upon prior to the season being over. Im good with that.
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Originally Posted by
confucius say
So they were eliminated Saturday night and he signed Sunday morning? That tells me all the details were agreed upon prior to the season being over. Im good with that.
We had been talking with his agent and then once they were eliminated we could actually talk to him. However, the difference is that our season was already over. It had been done for a week.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
I don't care who the ad is but firing him now makes ZERO difference except making some people in the internet happy. That's all
Gangrene grows the longer you let it stay. It also tells the players you don?t have to stay under this crap any longer! At this point it is criminal to keep him.
"False start everybody but the center" referee summarizing Arnett's season performance as a head coach.
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