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Originally Posted by
MaroonFlounder
Yep. The Mike Wright cult is even more clueless than the air raid cult.
Barbay is so lost on how to move the ball on an SEC defense, it is shocking.
Let me preface by saying I want arnett and staff gone, but our transition to AR was rough (100+ in total offense in 2020) and the transition away from it has been rough (100+ in total offense this season). Hopefully whoever we have next season won't have to deal with drastic transitions
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
I'm fine with adding a te. It would be nice if we actually had a decent one... thanks NCAA
Might have helped some to have him but his stats at TCU not that great receiving, but he may have been a great blocker. None of our portal guys have panned out. This staff cannot coach, evaluate, game plan or keep fans in their seats for more than about a half now.
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Originally Posted by
CadaverDawg
1. The air raid sucks
2. Arnett and Barbay's offense, the WTFAWED offense (what the F are we even doing) is even worse
3. Most fans with a brain prefer neither, and are actually the ones being proven right.
Sad, but I knew exactly what your "WTFAWED" meant with no explanation needed. H_ll State!, what are we doing or not doing on so many levels?
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Let me preface by saying I want arnett and staff gone, but our transition to AR was rough (100+ in total offense in 2020) and the transition away from it has been rough (100+ in total offense this season). Hopefully whoever we have next season won't have to deal with drastic transitions
Do you think in 2020 it's possible, just slightly/remotely possible, that playing with no spring practice, not even any face-to-face time with the team leading up to fall camp and the season, playing with partial teams due to Covid, playing an all-SEC schedule, playing with an all-freshmen backfield and a very, very young Oline ... might've had anything to do with all of that???
Probably not I guess ****
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Originally Posted by
dawgday166
Do you think in 2020 it's possible, just slightly/remotely possible, that playing with no spring practice, not even any face-to-face time with the team leading up to fall camp and the season, playing with partial teams due to Covid, playing an all-SEC schedule, playing with an all-freshmen backfield and a very, very young Oline ... might've had anything to do with all of that???
Probably not I guess ****
Did the teams we play get that extra practice time? What's leach's 1st year look like in other places (honestly don't know)? Lane's 1st year was 2020... how'd he do?
If you're honest with yourself, you'll acknowledge lane's first year was much easier bc he wasn't making such a hater transition
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Did the teams we play get that extra practice time? What's leach's 1st year look like in other places (honestly don't know)? Lane's 1st year was 2020... how'd he do?
I'm just saying you're not comparing apples to apples between 2020 and now. Texas Tech was 7 - 6. WSU 3-9. Not sure of Kiffin's roster but I imagine there was more experience on offense than what we had going for us. And go look at the schedules too. They didn't play GA at GA and Bama at Bama either. Their TAM game was cancelled. They won one more regular season than we did. They beat us in Oxford by 7 points when we had 47 players that dressed out due to Covid.
And you absolutely were all over Leach all year long. But this FUBAR you keep defending to the hilt.
I know ... you hate Leach. Got it.
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Originally Posted by
dawgday166
I'm just saying you're not comparing apples to apples between 2020 and now. Texas Tech was 7 - 6. WSU 3-9. Not sure of Kiffin's roster but I imagine there was more experience on offense than what we had going for us. And go look at the schedules too. They didn't play GA at GA and Bama at Bama either. Their TAM game was cancelled. They won one more regular season than we did. They beat us in Oxford by 7 points when we had 47 players that dressed out due to Covid.
And you absolutely were all over Leach all year long. But this FUBAR you keep defending to the hilt.
I know ... you hate Leach. Got it.
I literally just said I want this staff fired. If I'm a hypocrite then you are too bc you took the exact opposite position in 2020.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
I literally just said I want this staff fired. If I'm a hypocrite then you are too bc you took the exact opposite position in 2020.
No ... I'm not. I was giving this staff a little rope until I figured out what all was going on. I try to be behind any new coach.
This ain't an all-freshmen team. The competition we're playing is beyond horrible. Taking Bama out of both schedules (2020 and now), our 3 lowest scoring games added up to 26 pts in 2020. Our last 3 games with a bunch of Sr and Grads add up to 23 pts. FUBAR
JoMo tore down Mullen's culture. This staff has torn down Leach's (and I'm not talking about AR either).
ETA: COACHING is about more than X's & O's.
Last edited by dawgday166; 11-05-2023 at 01:20 PM.
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Originally Posted by
dawgday166
I'm just saying you're not comparing apples to apples between 2020 and now. Texas Tech was 7 - 6. WSU 3-9. Not sure of Kiffin's roster but I imagine there was more experience on offense than what we had going for us. And go look at the schedules too. They didn't play GA at GA and Bama at Bama either. Their TAM game was cancelled. They won one more regular season than we did. They beat us in Oxford by 7 points when we had 47 players that dressed out due to Covid.
And you absolutely were all over Leach all year long. But this FUBAR you keep defending to the hilt.
I know ... you hate Leach. Got it.
Another w the bs line that someone hates Leach. Nowhere has he ever said that. Ever. Find one person that said that. And bring it back. Just stop w that terrible made up crock.
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Originally Posted by
CadaverDawg
1. The air raid sucks
2. Arnett and Barbay's offense, the WTFAWED offense (what the F are we even doing) is even worse
3. Most fans with a brain prefer neither, and are actually the ones being proven right.
Haha! I didn't even need the parentheses. I read right through those letters knowing every word!!
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
Another w the bs line that someone hates Leach. Nowhere has he ever said that. Ever. Find one person that said that. And bring it back. Just stop w that terrible made up crock.
Ok ... whatever. He hasn't said it but he was all over Leach in 2020 cause I was scratching my head about it cause 7's usually pretty objective and reasonable. Maybe he just hated the offense. I wanted some tweaks and wanted to see a different QB in the system too on down the road. And I thought Leach was moving in that direction with a little time.
The "crock" about the "AR Cult" is the same type of crock.
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But how's that Zack/Barbay offense working out

Originally Posted by
Coach34
Let's start with Washington State. The Coug's scored 7 points yesterday with 245 yards of offense against 3-6 Stanford.
Western Kentucky? 102 yards passing and 280 yards of offense in their thrilling 21-13 win over 3-7 UTEP
Locke and Wisky lost to Indiana 20-14 breaking Indiana's 6 game losing streak.
USC scored 42 points but was shutout in the 4th and lost. Lincoln better learn that he needs to sign some guys to play defense.
The GOAT Offense off to a slow November start
its beyond awesome, isn't it
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Originally Posted by
dawgday166
No ... I'm not. I was giving this staff a little rope until I figured out what all was going on. I try to be behind any new coach.
This ain't an all-freshmen team. The competition we're playing is beyond horrible. Taking Bama out of both schedules (2020 and now), our 3 lowest scoring games added up to 26 pts in 2020. Our last 3 games with a bunch of Sr and Grads add up to 23 pts. FUBAR
JoMo tore down Mullen's culture. This staff has torn down Leach's (and I'm not talking about AR either).
ETA: COACHING is about more than X's & O's.
Very well said
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At some point in life it just pays to shut the hell up. I'm sure you've had many of those points in your life, and this is just another. You look dumber and dumber with every thread you start.
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The Leach haters are always the first to chirp about being called Leach Haters.
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Originally Posted by
KB21
The Leach haters are always the first to chirp about being called Leach Haters.
I've said it before and I'll say it again...
The air raid sucked. Our offense under Leach was boring and inefficient. I loved Leach the man, but I didn't love his offense.
That being said....I never wanted to replace him with Zach freaking Arnett.
If given the choice, I would have never wanted the Air Raid OR the Barbay offense, bc they both stink. The Barbay offense just somehow stinks much worse.
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The Air Raid is the best college system there is.
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Originally Posted by
CadaverDawg
I've said it before and I'll say it again...
The air raid sucked. Our offense under Leach was boring and inefficient. I loved Leach the man, but I didn't love his offense.
That being said....I never wanted to replace him with Zach freaking Arnett.
If given the choice, I would have never wanted the Air Raid OR the Barbay offense, bc they both stink. The Barbay offense just somehow stinks much worse.
It somehow stinks worse because we have no offensive identity. There is never anything to build off of from week to week. We run some wide zone and some of the slowest developing sweeps and reverses I have ever seen in my life. And I don't know what the hell the reverse shovel pass looking abomination of a play was supposed to be that we ran.
And contrary to the promises in the offseason we do not put our best 11 on the field. And that prevents us from getting production from guys like Creed or maximizing Justin Robinson. Sure, maybe Leach had Tulu out of position but at least he was actually on the field somewhere the majority of the time. Then we have some people blaming recruiting when we're not even putting our best guys out there?
We also don't attack deep in this offense either. I think Will was only like 2-3 passes ahead of where he was last year in that category compared to last year at the time he was injured.
Basically Woody McBarbay's offense is running around doing shifts and finding overcomplicated ways to hand the ball off. It's Croom with a lot of window dressing out of the shotgun.
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Originally Posted by
KB21
The Leach haters are always the first to chirp about being called Leach Haters.
Again, find one time where someone said, they hate Mike leach. Just once. You're full of shit and trying to stir shit up.
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